Variance

[Gitem]

pick better leaders. it's going to happen again.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you going on about RETARD?

Learn to read:
"Where is all that ex-Nihilum guild bank plat gone now? Where is Vapo now?"

I asked about the guild bank plat which Vapo had taken control of before the guild disbanded. Pixelpalace shows up out of the blue selling big ticket items for cheap prices, while the ex Nihilum banks log in one after the other transferring items to Pixelpalace... nothing to see here boys... move along...

You were Nihilum and raided uncontested for years, so you join the next zerg made up of almost all the same members and were supposed to believe now they are different?

That the old one was toxic but the new one is great for the box? Seriously are you fucking retarded?

I mean I kinda suspected when you said you only cast deflux on your necro, but if you are really mentally handicapped I'll stop verbally abusing you so badly in public. But you don't make it easy on yourself.

[RIP The Jacka]

Swyft, learn2pvp maybe people will take u more seriously [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You were Nihilum and raided uncontested for years, so you join the next zerg made up of almost all the same members and were supposed to believe now they are different?

That the old one was toxic but the new one is great for the box? Seriously are you fucking retarded?

I mean I kinda suspected when you said you only cast deflux on your necro, but if you are really mentally handicapped I'll stop verbally abusing you so badly in public. But you don't make it easy on yourself.

Again with the retardation. Pre-dispell counters dots were a waste of mana, you countered 2 dots with 1 pumice and could cure ebolts/disease based dots very quickly while casting non-lure wizard nukes for full damage (due to broken spell resists at the time). Necros were the dogshit class of the server, which was why I was like the only active 60 necro in nihilum for about 6 months or so.

We had skirmished a few times and you pelled/cured all my dots until I oomed and I had to gate/levant (not plug) like you suggest. Way to take things out of context.

I've only been on this box since June 2013, so I don't know what this 'Years of uncontested' raiding crap is all about, especially since Nizzar's 2-3 month D3 break happened during my first year in Nihilum.

I feel like I'm wasting my breath and I'm arguing with a braindead stoner. Welcome to ignore again Syft.

[daasgoot]

dat rage tho

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[Swyft]

Everyone against variance this is their pvp style

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have 2 kills for every level 60 I have on r99. So like 12-14 kills.

I'm an expert on avoiding pvp and which classes are overpowered, especially defensively.

I also know all vendors that sell gate potions and the quickest route to them.

Call me crazy but i don't think a red server should reward the weakest pvp players simply for showing up with 80 people on static spawns.

I think on a red server you should be forced to fight for your loot and not be handed a trophy for showing up.

There isn't a single argument someone could give that variance could possibly lead to less pvp than we already have on raids. And if you added every player opposing variance kill/deaths you'd have very few kills and whole lotta deaths.

Variance equals more pvp that's why pvper's are for it and blues are against.

[Glenzig]

So what are the exact reasons why variance will increase pvp?

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what are the exact reasons why variance will increase pvp?

go back and read thread

[quido]

Now instead of Vaporize getting BIS on 20 characters, 20 people can get BIS on 1 character and we have more pals to play with.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what are the exact reasons why variance will increase pvp?

I think most people are cool with it just increasing "sniping". I understand that you think "sniping" is uncool, but I feel like you have a vested interest in lobbying against it.

"Sniping" makes smaller more organized guilds feasible because if you can snag 1/5 mobs but only have to gear 1/5th the number of players, you're gearing at the same rate as the bigger disorganized guild.

If you're gearing at the same rate as the bigger guild, you'll attract people who meet your more organized standards and potentially start to edge out the larger guild. If you start to edge out the larger guild, PVP will presumably happen.