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[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Chronoburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, here are the facts about Darkenbane's "points" domination .....

Oct 7, 2001 Darkenbane is in second place behind a 15 man guild ....
https://web.archive.org/web/20011007...sz_summary.jsp

A little over a year later, Dec 7, 2002 .... ToW is leading Darkenbane by 100K points ....TOW probably took the lead right before POP.

https://web.archive.org/web/20021207...sz_summary.jsp

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[toolshed]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Darkenbane probably the worst guild in EQ PVP history honestly.

How could they be any worse than a guild that never pvped at all? <hate>

[Chronoburn]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everyone from Rallos and Sullon rolled the same WoW server. All the good PvP guilds were on WoW by 2004.

Are you talking about DIE? They got their shit pushed in by NURFED.

The majority of relevant people from SZ went to Stormreaver. Newts were Nightmare Inc and the majority of Hate went to Minium.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How could they be any worse than a guild that never pvped at all? <hate>

You mean the guild that was #1 on the points board when it closed down? Maybe a bunch of lemming newt/good players ran into Hate AE groups and got mowed down accidentally I guess.

[Chronoburn]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean the guild that was #1 on the points board when it closed down? Maybe a bunch of lemming newt/good players ran into Hate AE groups and got mowed down accidentally I guess.

Once POP released, that's when <Hate> came out to play. Can't blame them, 3 insta kill classes and safe zones makes pvp difficult.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Chronoburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once POP released, that's when <Hate> came out to play. Can't blame them, 3 insta kill classes and safe zones makes pvp difficult.

I joined late Luclin after Nine disbanded. Draganov and Deas went neutral, Herb quit and I joined Hate. We were actually considering guildwaring them for fun after we jacked up Infeste Nex pretty good.

[Farzo]

https://web.archive.org/web/20011007...sz_summary.jsp

why cant we have a pvp board like this? Rogean? Sirken?

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by Farzo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://web.archive.org/web/20011007...sz_summary.jsp

why cant we have a pvp board like this? Rogean? Sirken?

Guessing because they'd have to either
A) dedicate time to a niche web site that not everybody on the red server care about or would use. Extra csr work to a leaderboard.
B) trust one of us with access to the server's stats and worry about somehow one of the neckbeards find a backdoor in.

In short, it's a headache that they don't need.

[Crazycloud]

Chronoburn Preach my brother Preach!

[BardPop]

Hate has just as many guild kills on http://www.treborlogic.com/sz/history/ as tides or anyone else. Newts and goods ran into the ae groups that sounds right