THIS SERVER NEEDS MORE GM'S

[Eslade]

How about no rules Monday?

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by Burgerking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I think it's pointless to play the blame game, the result is still the same, we have a server with allot of rules and none of which can be enforced. Maybe we can stop pointing fingers and look for a meaningful solution.

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

agree here

police it

or remove ALL rules

Logically there are only two solutions, hire more GM's or Remove all rules. Selectively enforcing rules is worse than having none at all. It punishes the people who follow the rules, while allowing people who don't to repeatedly offend.

[Andis]

one thing we agree on syft

wow never thought would happen lol

[ricquire]

Originally Posted by Burgerking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have a stack of guide applications and the ones picked can never do they're job on red without quiting, maybe it's because the wrong applications keep being picked.

Can't agree more.

As I have said in other posts, we all know that of the 600 "active accounts" on red, probably 400 of them have offered to be guides, simply because most of the p99 populace is sick in the head about EQ.

My expectation would be some defense that "most of those people have connections they could not overlook to current players on the server... blah blah.. conflict of interests... blah.."; but I would further guess that many of these players put a guide app in before they established and actually played with people on red, again because these people are sick in the head about EQ.

Of the random assortment of guides over the years that have been selected from the pool of applicants, they all have had unprofessional customer service skills; either by chance, or as a consequence of the selective criteria.

Stop trying to have mail carriers fight fires.

[Mac Drettj]

when mobs dissapear into the world and summon other players there and no gms are willing to help because they think the entire server is toxic

somethin wrong

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Word on the street is he is the proud new owner of Topdog who as we all know was sold for onions.

wut is this

top g still my nightrider

[Agatha]

smedy join TS and say gooblins for me.

[lite]

GM's should have taken more severe stance on training early on. Every single time someone trained, regardless of the severity and impact it was always a 1 week suspension that gradually escalated each time you did it. It meant absolute shit...

You trained 1 group, 1 week suspension. You trained a massive 40v40 raid costing 40 people 3 hours + of their time... one toon gets a 1 week suspension. It got to the point where one toon taking a week suspension meant absolute shit, ad following the rules was just not logical towards the advancement of the guild.

someone called someone else's mom a "super ****** drunk lover", 1 week suspension.....

we are clearly the scummiest society around and the way actions were being punished did not reflect on a staff that understood how to properly penalize us.

For example... the first time we beat Nihilum over Draco.. Nizzar trained the shit out of Fear on us,causing us to lose the battle. It was documented .... he got a 1 week suspension. that was it... No draco gear turned over, No raid suspensions.. Some events are far more meaningful than others and the server needs a GM in tune with what's going on and what means what.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Things I remain unsure about:

1. why the respectable community members have to suffer because of the shit bags.
2. why there aren't more in game punishments for behavior on boards
3. why the staff does not name and shame people who do things like this, you're using a VERY broad stroke labeling the community
4. why ban decisions would have to go through anyone other than Sirken/Derubael
5. why Sirken/Derubael can't immediately ban people who treat the volunteer staff poorly or do not listen to their directions. I remember the open defiance of Nizzar when he was told to move his bind from permafrost, why the hell should telling you guys no even cross his mind? Players should be scared shitless of doing something like this. Clearly some kind of precedent was set that this kind of thing was something you could get away with(??!?!?!).

I'm not bolding "why" to be condescending. I'm not bolding "why" to sharpen my tone or the words used. I'm doing it to point out that I'm aware of the fact that these things are currently the case but the reasons behind them are still unclear and the situation does not make sense that respectable, dedicated and knowledgeable VOLUNTEER staff members should have to take any kind of shit from people whatsoever.

Currently you have a system where people can brow beat or otherwise grief the staff off the server and then respectable players in the community afterwards. How the heck is that a working system? What is in the way of revising that? Really if you think of it, the staff and community end up being at the mercy of extremely toxic individuals instead of the staff. I know that's not what the GMs/guides I've talked to want and I know for certain that's not how it worked when I played on live. Instead of blaming you which some people will do as a knee jerk reaction (and because GM is right over your name on the boards and we look to you for help), please point us to the door to go pound on so we can ask them to stop tying your hands.

You know I'm in your corner (Sirk/Deru) and have always stood for a fairly enforced and classic server. I would hope the rest of the community reads something like "people are treating the guides like shit and they leave" and come forth with nothing less than outrage against the people causing it. Honestly, who would be against suspensions then bans for people who mistreat the staff?

PS: There is no way that you'd rather deal with class R/class C and who had what class where in the zone and the rule lawyering/LIES that go along with it over... anything else.

Well put.

Why is it so hard for people to not be a dick-blistering faggot?

[Kergan]

R99/homeless shelter comparison spot on. We have nowhere else to go, nobody helping us really wants to be here, and there is a never ending supply of bumfights.

p.s. Andis bringing up his alleged MBA from Phoenix U as a reason he isn't retarded was pretty hilarious too. Guy is a certifiable medical grade retarded person.