Taken - Sev

[sulpher01]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure why Deru still saying multiple guilds would be suspended. Being on the hate list isn't against any written rules.

What im wondering... Why is he focusing so hard on something that isnt a rule, and completely ignoring the thing that is?? Tryin pretty hard to help taken out heh...

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Lisset [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I have enjoyed your posts Swish, I'm just gonna go ahead and block you. You've turned into nothing more than a whore for red lately and that's just sad.

Truly I'm saddened that people want to see its destruction/demise with such enthusiasm. If anyone has read 1984 by George Orwell I like it to the scenes where people scream hate at "the enemy" on the telescreens (Eurasia or whoever).

If you haven't read it, you really should btw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure why Deru still saying multiple guilds would be suspended. Being on the hate list isn't against any written rules.

If anything that's encouraging something to be written in.

Perhaps there'll be a released P99 rulebook pdf in the future with appropriate sections, sub sections and sub sub sections? Something to think about.

[Juryiel]

It's actually a bit disheartening to see Deru saying all the guilds there are 'equally' guilty when most guilds there actively made sure to not pull Sev, and then when it was brought to zone tried to make sure their members did not engage. I don't really care what Taken's punishment is or if there is one at all, those are politics I don't care to get involved in. But looking at that hatelist and the number of people in zone it's clear that one guild had its members attack Sev while most of the rest generally do not have a kill-force on Sev's hate list. Given that Sev was pulled to the place where every single guild was camped, any guild intending to kill it would have way more people on hate list if that was their intention. Whereas now, nearly 65% of the people on there are Taken, while the remaining ~35% is split among many guilds with the next highest up being ~13% . Clearly not everyone is 'equally' guilty.

Also I can already foresee problems if it becomes an official rule to not accidentally agro mobs. But that's an RnF thread for another day :P

[Ravager]

Pretty sure he knows they messed up the ruling but GM ruling is law in this land and he can't back down. Kinda like arguing balls and strikes.

It's okay, we forgive you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ7tIfWD_FM

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure he knows they messed up the ruling but GM ruling is law in this land and he can't back down. Kinda like arguing balls and strikes.

It's okay, we forgive you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ7tIfWD_FM

Except when those mistakes are occurring in most of the decisions they are making lately. They keep rewarding the people that actually screwed up it looks like.

[Man0warr]

Taken took a calculated risk, probably thinking at worst their loot would be removed (and deny other guilds a chance at loot), and at best they could rules lawyer for some Sev loot.

The GMs have rewarded their risk.

[Argh]

How is getting all loot deleted a reward?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is getting all loot deleted a reward?

It's not really, but what I think he means is that killing a dragon that had an illegal FTE was a calculated risk. I'm sure Taken was hoping that at best they'd get to keep the loot and at worst the loot would be deleted when the "at worst" scenario should have been something like a raid suspension + deleted loot. They got off easy.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is getting all loot deleted a reward?

They made sure class C couldn't get it. Diabolical.

[Locust]

problem is, other than Taken, all guilds present for FFA Severilious were playing by the written rule that you do not pull and kill the raid target until FTE resets

Taken decided to break the rule and pull/kill Severilous anyway

Taken was punished by having loot taken away, but every other guild still lost their opportunity at a raid target as a direct result of Taken's actions

how does the engage being a clusterfuck trump that?