attention RL info posting nerds - Page 15

Kekephee · #1 06-18-2014, 01:54 PM

What impact will this new anti-RMT plan have on my level 6 enchanter Batmon

hatelore · #2 06-18-2014, 01:56 PM

Try More Oveltine.

Kekephee · #3 06-18-2014, 02:01 PM

Honestly, even if there was some vast GM RMT conspiracy happening on this server (don't think there is) the long and short of the issue is, if you somehow uncovered and stopped it all you'd accomplish would be that the server would go away. The people who run the thing aren't going to keep running the thing if they're running the thing for some seedy purpose and that purpose gets ruined for them, you know? If you're assuming there is an RMT conspiracy with the GMs, your choices are "It's worth dealing with to get to play this game" or "It's not worth dealing with." There is no "stop the people who run the thing and then get them to give the thing to someone else who won't be bad with it."

Derubael · #4 06-18-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then quit letting him undermine the staff's credibility and objectivity. Tiggles gets in game pixels from Uthgard to render services in real life. Found to be e-dating Amelinda. Now hosts Twitch streams with Sirken. And you wonder why a shitshow happens when TMO gets any leniency? What is the average, rational person here supposed to think given Tiggles' unique history of interacting with staff?

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Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perception of GM favoritism changes every time there is new discipline. When 86 TMO accounts got suspended, everyone cried that GMs favored rogeans pals in IB. When IB gets suspended they cry that they favor TMO, etc.

In reality they just put a lot of work into knowing the rules/rule lawyering.

Argh just spouting common sense all over this thread right now. I have no control over how Tiggles acts in RnF. Yes, we've been over and acknowledged the fact that Tiggles got a character made to spy on a guild, but everyone seems to forget that favortism has been shown in the past to other guilds as well, including BDA, under the old CSR staff. ALL guilds have skeletons - TMO just gets more shit because of their (admittedly) poor attitude.

Lastly, as Argh once again stated, we have a wide range of guests come on our show - we've had BDA, Taken, IB, TMO, etc. It's an open invite and always has been. It only "looks" as bad as you perceive it to be, and when you're already going in with an opinion in mind (GM's favor TMO!) of course that's how you're going to see it.

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Don't usually agree with Yendor, but wowza this. How's Derubael gonna handle this one cuz that stings lol.

uh. what? How bout by telling the truth? See that's the great part about not being a scumbag - you don't have to make excuses, lie, or justify your shady actions when someone asks you a question.

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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, Deru asked why the shitstorm when TMO gets leniency on any GM rulings... I explained how Tiggles and his interactions with staff are a huge part of the perception of impropriety.

Or are we still glossing over the fact that he was handed a character by staff?

So we're going to continue to base the current staff's actions on staff members who were removed over two years ago? How do Uthgaard and Amelinda's actions in any way insinuate that Sirken and I would do the same? This is like saying the old president was shit so the new president will also be shit, and make the same mistakes, just because they are in the same position.

Again, you're walking into a situation with an opinion already formed about the outcome based on the actions of people who came before us. Your perception of events is always going to be skewed because of this.

We work really hard to ensure we go into every situation with an unbiased viewpoint. But even then, we get accused of favortism, and we're tired of dealing with it - hence part of the reason we instated the new policy for dealing with raid disputes. It's hard to accuse us of "favortism" when we aren't involved in the "judicial process". Because it doesn't really matter which way we rule - someone is always going to be on the losing end, and that group is always going to feel there was bias shown against them.

That's just the way it is. Welcome to life as a Project 1999 CSR GM. No pay, long hours, way too much work, and on top of it all everyone thinks you are biased against them, regardless of what you do.

Imslap · #5 06-18-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

uh. what? How bout by telling the truth? See that's the great part about not being a scumbag - you don't have to make excuses, lie, or justify your shady actions when someone asks you a question.

How's Fountree gonna handle this one cuz that stings lol.

Shannacore · #6 06-18-2014, 02:33 PM

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Yes, we've been over and acknowledged the fact that Tiggles got a character made to spy on a guild

lol

Fountree · #7 06-18-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A) I wasn't removed, I voluntarily left.
B) LOL. It's funny because you're implying that I was shit.
C) I don't consider the actions I've disclosed here a mistake.
D) Don't even associate me with Amelinda.

If there's any point I've made here, it's that I handled things in an entirely different time, and I did it effectively. And I stand by every decision I made. As a consequence, Tiggles and I got the first plat selling website shut right the fuck down. That was a notch I don't believe you have under your belt.

So before you judge, get educated.

Uthgaard 2014