ninja looting or no?

[Stonecrush]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forum homepage says trying to emulate classic experience. Loot timer was up its Ffa. You can't compare raid mob rulesets here with group mobs. Gms on live said once timer hits public access its Ffa. Gms here are far too raid/large guild centric, but can't blame them for having their own chars in any of those guilds. If bra changer was there the entire time then he should of been grouped. Bda making me like tmo more each day.

How about if you did NOT kill the mob presume you're not the intended looter.
If you cannot tell the difference between a crush bone orc corpse or Quilmane. Then it's obvious you need to go back to WoW. Where all the I'm out for me only people breed.

The game isn't about you, it's about the community and being apart of something that is supposed to be fun.

I feel so bad for GM's if this is the idea of even 10% of the server.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Stonecrush [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about if you did NOT kill the mob presume you're not the intended looter.
If you cannot tell the difference between a crush bone orc corpse or Quilmane. Then it's obvious you need to go back to WoW. Where all the I'm out for me only people breed.

The game isn't about you, it's about the community and being apart of something that is supposed to be fun.

I feel so bad for GM's if this is the idea of even 10% of the server.

You're joking right? This server is all about the me me me people.if it wasn't then bdawould of respected the unguilded chanters time more. But a note in the matter which I find dumb is the person getting banned for public loot corpse. Shit I was camping quillmane for my mages epic on live Nd some dick stole the mob from me and called his friend over to loot the body I ninjaed it once corpse timer went public. I received no penalty from that. It's ridiculous that as much work is being put into this served to emulate classic it still doesn't do t co ommunity

[Stonecrush]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're joking right? This server is all about the me me me people.if it wasn't then bdawould of respected the unguilded chanters time more. But a note in the matter which I find dumb is the person getting banned for public loot corpse. Shit I was camping quillmane for my mages epic on live Nd some dick stole the mob from me and called his friend over to loot the body I ninjaed it once corpse timer went public. I received no penalty from that. It's ridiculous that as much work is being put into this served to emulate classic it still doesn't do t co ommunity

Okay stop for a second, and make your point in a clear manner. I speak (write) with experience on lacking an ability to type when annoyed.

Back to the topic of unlocked npc corpse loot may be a grey area for GM's but as a community it's a big douche move. You win some and lose some on mobs, if you didn't kill the mob then NINJAing the mob is NOT the answer.

My Story for you.
I had a friend who was working on his Cleric epic. He obtained his 4 Pearlescent Fragments in sky fire to spawn Ragefire (took a week then.). This is for his final hit and 1 or 2 steps from his Rez stick. During the battle, Talendar added or was pulled (it was chaotic) and caused the raid force to have an issue with Ragefire. Talendar died and the opposing raid force killed Ragefire. A member of the other raid force looted the heart and destroyed it in anger over "missing out" on Talendar. There was massive backlash over that move and the drama caused makes this thread (after OP) and the BDA event seem like a bunch of non sense.

I know my story doesn't fully apply to P99 or directly to ninjaing an open corpse but it's a good story to not being a douche and it did end well. The toon that destroyed the heart ended up helping my friend to get the Pearlescent Fragments again. Because it was the right thing to do and after all it is just a game. Being a douche was not a cool plan. I feel like this is one of my kids books and I've reached he end...

The point of all of this nonsense? It says in the rules DON'T BE A JERK... Just use your best judgement and don't listen to the greed. It will alienate you so fast as the word spreads.

As for the BDA incident, here's a potential path to take.
Eample:"Hey BDA, when this guy spawns again, would you mind helping me out? I'd really appreciate the assistance."
Usually people are pretty cool about friendly people asking for assistance.

Finally, if you wouldn't want it done to you, then don't do it to someone else. Common sense, I know it's a difficult concept but it's a practical guide.

Additionally if someone screws you out of a Quilmane on P1999, I'll come help you spawn it again and again for your cloak. Because I am not a doucher and I don't hold grudges.

Sincerly,
I'm to old for this shit.

[Man0warr]

Stop posting, you type like a 5 year old.

[Locust]

contested mobs are fte. ninja looting is punishable.

if you don't like it you can get out

[Duckwalk]

If this was the real world and someone was waiting hours/days in line for something, you'd wait for them or come back another time.

However, as this is EQ the rules state that mobs such as this are first to engage.

Ironically in this case, its BDA (the guild that campaigned for a more relaxed /casual friendly raid scene in light of larger more dedicated guilds steamrolling over them and getting FTE) who does the exact same thing to unguilded chanter.

That said after the mob was killed it was absolutely ninja looting. Doesn't change the fact that BDA /Chest are hypocrites and assholes in this scenario.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ironically in this case, its BDA (the guild that campaigned for a more relaxed /casual friendly raid scene in light of larger more dedicated guilds steamrolling over them and getting FTE) who does the exact same thing to unguilded chanter.

That said after the mob was killed it was absolutely ninja looting. Doesn't change the fact that BDA /Chest are hypocrites and assholes in this scenario.

BDA was the largest guild to campaign for the casual raid scene. They were not the only guild. They campaigned extremely hard, with those other guilds, for weeks. What we have now is a result of a COMPROMISE because TMO/FE/IB wanted to keep it the way it was, and would have, if Rogean hadn't forced them to work with us.

It's cool you have opinions tho

[Duckwalk]

Perhaps my "lol" was a bit ambiguous.

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That said after the mob was killed it was absolutely ninja looting.

I just happen to enjoy pointing out hypocrisy and it amuses me that after all BDA's talk about fairness and taking the game less serious, it turns out they are just as desperate for pixels/invested in the game, they just can't "compete" but won't hesitate to screw over people smaller than them.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps my "lol" was a bit ambiguous.



I just happen to enjoy pointing out hypocrisy and it amuses me that after all BDA's talk about fairness and taking the game less serious, it turns out they are just as desperate for pixels/invested in the game, they just can't "compete" but won't hesitate to screw over people smaller than them.

How long do you think we should have waited? Long enough for them to send tells to people on their friends list, get a good group together? Long enough for each of those people to look for a port? Long enough for them to run to Neriak? Long enough for them all to hang out and buff each other?

Have you even heard a word in any of this from a single person who has said they were en route to help Saraya? How do you know they even exist, never mind that it wouldn't have taken them half an hour to get there?

Let's be real. If this were the frenzy camp and we were a group of randoms instead of a guild there's not a snowball's chance in Hell you'd be singing this inane little song about BDA being the bad guys. I see you criticize TMO all the time, so I know you're not just some TMO troll or some sycophantic level 30 who hopes to one day join them, but please be aware that what you're doing is you're parroting a meaningless little bit of bullshit that was introduced into the discussion by TMO trolls just to stir people up and get them to think of us as the bad guys.



And Hell, you know what? Epics ARE serious. People work their asses off for months on that shit. Yeah, we're gonna grab what we can when we can, as long as we're not breaking the rules or actively stepping on someone's neck to do it. Not having the numbers to kill the mob and going MINE MINE MINE is not sufficient for "stepping on someone's neck. Believe me when I say, if this had been a situation where I felt like we were "screwing the little guy," I wouldn't have participated. None of us even had any idea Saraya was there until she ninja looted- I said it in the old thread and I stand by it, I did /who when I zoned in and saw no one but BDA. Maybe I missed her name. Maybe she zoned out for a second for some reason. Or maybe she fucking lied about being there. I don't know and I'm not going to make a claim. But at any rate, she never ooc'd, never used /say, nothing. And if she had, we'd have told her, politely, that you can't claim a mob you can't kill.

[Tokai Saikutsu]

If you couldnt swap toons and loot the ac before it goes public, You need to upgrade your 286 pc and go to atleast 14400 baud modem .....

I always let the next in line know what im doing, i never had a problem yet. If im getting the drop for another account, ill have someone else loot it for me .....