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[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Iandyan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First person that takes my Paw of Opolla is gonna get RL death threats/dick pics from me.

Can't loot primary/secondary/range

[JPMorgan]

The only way to implement item loot with out making it an even bigger strokefest for twinks is to make all gear droppable but with level requirements to equip.

[Nirgon]

We tried the custom xp loss, FFA zones.. all that.

Big naw's across da boards.

FFA zones resulted in people being basically unable to xp in solb/perma .... nothing else of value.

[Nirgon]

Risk versus reward, the cornerstone of EQ..

You should have to RISK the INSANE advantage of having a fungi as a low level PK.

And let's be sure...

There's twinks fighting twinks... and fungis will get looted eventually... and people will stop doing that shit. You can also hit squad notorious twinked pks. Froglok BC robe early in Kunark was a huge deal early on RZ and I saw one get yanked off a corpse from an Oasis wizard PK. There was much rejoicing from the local xpers trying to come up in the struggle as the victor paraded around with it.

When was the last time you saw a griefer PK twink get some of the brutality they dished out returned to them?

I mean... lemme go grief unrest people trying to level and if I die no big deal. Go down swinging with that fungi/cloak of flames right now? Heh.

Attacking a player should be a major risk... and having an insane gear advantage at low levels.. you got it... should be a MAJOR risk. Right now its all chortles for the over twinked and no reward for whenever the heroes in rags bring them down. Sounds like somethign that would DISCOURAGE new players rather than excite them for the chance to snag a dragon loot from a griefer. Further, if someone has no level 50+'s matching their IP... and the fungi they got was received in a trade with nothing back from their end of the trade window.... shouldn't this guy buying his way have that fungi poof from his corpse when he dies attacking 6 people xping?

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Risk versus reward, the cornerstone of EQ..

You should have to RISK the INSANE advantage of having a fungi as a low level PK.

And let's be sure...

There's twinks fighting twinks... and fungis will get looted eventually... and people will stop doing that shit. You can also hit squad notorious twinked pks. Froglok BC robe early in Kunark was a huge deal early on RZ and I saw one get yanked off a corpse from an Oasis wizard PK. There was much rejoicing from the local xpers trying to come up in the struggle as the victor paraded around with it.

When was the last time you saw a griefer PK twink get some of the brutality they dished out returned to them?

I mean... lemme go grief unrest people trying to level and if I die no big deal. Go down swinging with that fungi/cloak of flames right now? Heh.

Attacking a player should be a major risk... and having an insane gear advantage at low levels.. you got it... should be a MAJOR risk. Right now its all chortles for the over twinked and no reward for whenever the heroes in rags bringing them down.

I agree with everything you just said.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Risk versus reward, the cornerstone of EQ..

You should have to RISK the INSANE advantage of having a fungi as a low level PK.

And let's be sure...

There's twinks fighting twinks... and fungis will get looted eventually... and people will stop doing that shit. You can also hit squad notorious twinked pks. Froglok BC robe early in Kunark was a huge deal early on RZ and I saw one get yanked off a corpse from an Oasis wizard PK. There was much rejoicing from the local xpers trying to come up in the struggle as the victor paraded around with it.

When was the last time you saw a griefer PK twink get some of the brutality they dished out returned to them?

I mean... lemme go grief unrest people trying to level and if I die no big deal. Go down swinging with that fungi/cloak of flames right now? Heh.

Attacking a player should be a major risk... and having an insane gear advantage at low levels.. you got it... should be a MAJOR risk. Right now its all chortles for the over twinked and no reward for whenever the heroes in rags bring them down. Sounds like somethign that would DISCOURAGE new players rather than excite them for the chance to snag a dragon loot from a griefer.

Item loot gets a little ridiculous in Velious since there is so much good no drop gear. The bluebies really start to get brave with the full sets of no drop. I know jewelry can still drop but even without it people in end game gear will stomp others.

Maybe with some reworking of the resist system they could make that droppable resist gear more relevant.

[Vayder]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right now its all chortles for the over twinked and no reward for whenever the heroes in rags bring them down. Sounds like somethign that would DISCOURAGE new players rather than excite them for the chance to snag a dragon loot from a griefer.

So your suggestion is to not only let the fungi twink laugh, but also let them loot from the less geared players?

You're now encouraging fungi twinks to PK. The tears and grief they seek will only increase and they might even profit here and there. The chances they profit are far greater than the chances their fungi ever doesn't make it into a bag and that Ragebringer will always be safe.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Vayder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your suggestion is to not only let the fungi twink laugh, but also let them loot from the less geared players?

You're now encouraging fungi twinks to PK. The tears and grief they seek will only increase and they might even profit here and there. The chances they profit are far greater than the chances their fungi ever doesn't make it into a bag and that Ragebringer will always be safe.

Raising the stakes builds a community. People ally to destroy the villains and it also puts twinks up against each other to obtain the best loots. Yes, newbies will lose a piece of bronze armor here and there but this also encourages a real community where even on a server like this people's reputation will somewhat matter.

[Nirgon]

They profit what?

Risking a fungi for blood stained tunics? Heh

At least when they get low hp they are forced to bag (have fun fighting back while doing this) rather than do down swinging at no penalty... and a harm touch or hoop will shut someone's shit down real quick.

Day 1 priority for me with item loot would be to hand an Ivandyr's hoop to newbs being griefed in Unrest. Probability of twink losing fungi? 100.0%.

[heartbrand]

hoops dont work on red99 pal