A Sickness With No Cure

[rollin5k]

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Originally Posted by rollin5k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Not_Kazowi]

It amazes me how delusional people on this server are. I haven’t been much of a factor on this server for most of its incarnation, a ghost of what I was in the past really. I still have kept tabs on the server and have a general consensus of the drama and big moves that have gone down.

Heartbrand has created a very friendly and equal guild for all walks of life on the server. It really rustles my jimmies to see Azrael totally undermine his efforts and break off at the most opportune moment. All while stealing and poaching members to help fill in their voids. I understand that it is a very intelligent move for ensuring their own success and ability to compete, but it really has no redeeming character to it.

You guys want to be this strong resistance and fight Nihilum but you just split the resistance into 2. I don’t really understand. Is it you do not like being under command of Heartbrand? Or is Lite really that amazing of a leader? Things could have been discussed in order to maintain our strong resistance and integrity. Now all is lost and if Azrael does not succeed, even more bridges have been burnt between the limited resistance members that have not already joined Nihilum.

I have no control over the big guild decisions or anything that happened on repop day as I was not online. Trying to look at it from a non-bias standpoint, it makes sense to me though. Why would we ally up with a guild who essentially just stole most of our members? I am not a fan of teaming up with Nihilum but in that situation I think they were the lesser of the 2 evils. Azrael members also claim to be these EQ PVP professionals that want as many targets as possible, well your wish has been granted and all I see is crying and moaning about fighting a zerg. You guys had first hand in making things this way so please by all means stop trying to point fingers everywhere but towards yourself.

Be real people, worry about your own guild and stop taking every little drama ridden thing to the boards. Red Dawn was good to me and a lot of people. I feel compelled to show Heartbrand some loyalty, I wish more people felt like I do on this server because there is just entirely too much flip flopping.

[LostCause]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It amazes me how delusional people on this server are. I haven’t been much of a factor on this server for most of its incarnation, a ghost of what I was in the past really. I still have kept tabs on the server and have a general consensus of the drama and big moves that have gone down.

Heartbrand has created a very friendly and equal guild for all walks of life on the server. It really rustles my jimmies to see Azrael totally undermine his efforts and break off at the most opportune moment. All while stealing and poaching members to help fill in their voids. I understand that it is a very intelligent move for ensuring their own success and ability to compete, but it really has no redeeming character to it.

You guys want to be this strong resistance and fight Nihilum but you just split the resistance into 2. I don’t really understand. Is it you do not like being under command of Heartbrand? Or is Lite really that amazing of a leader? Things could have been discussed in order to maintain our strong resistance and integrity. Now all is lost and if Azrael does not succeed, even more bridges have been burnt between the limited resistance members that have not already joined Nihilum.

I have no control over the big guild decisions or anything that happened on repop day as I was not online. Trying to look at it from a non-bias standpoint, it makes sense to me though. Why would we ally up with a guild who essentially just stole most of our members? I am not a fan of teaming up with Nihilum but in that situation I think they were the lesser of the 2 evils. Azrael members also claim to be these EQ PVP professionals that want as many targets as possible, well your wish has been granted and all I see is crying and moaning about fighting a zerg. You guys had first hand in making things this way so please by all means stop trying to point fingers everywhere but towards yourself.

Be real people, worry about your own guild and stop taking every little drama ridden thing to the boards. Red Dawn was good to me and a lot of people. I feel compelled to show Heartbrand some loyalty, I wish more people felt like I do on this server because there is just entirely too much flip flopping.

wow now buddy, is this real life?

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[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by LostCause [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wow now buddy, is this real life?

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Is that supposed to be an insult? I took 10 minutes and tried to post a logical and mature reply. Sorry if that's above your intelligence level buddy boy

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that supposed to be an insult? I took 10 minutes and tried to post a logical and mature reply. Sorry if that's above your intelligence level buddy boy

You had a lot of legit points in your post. If Azrael wouldn't have split from RD and poached members repop day would have been Red Dawn vs Nihilum no doubt. There wouldn't be any gray lines or secret deals. PvP would have happened and both guilds would have gotten pixels. Azrael splits off and threatens RD by possibly getting them 0 pixels. They create an environment where RD is up against two monsters instead of 1. They create a 3 guild environment where it will ALWAYS be 2 v 1. It is inevitable that deals will have to be made and they are upset everything didn't go there way.

I get the hatred for Nihilum and blinders being put on when anyone does something in favor of Nizzar since he is ultimately the biggest villain and detriment to this server.

Azrael is the one that put RD in a position to be number 3 and pretty much at the mercy of the other two guilds in guild vs guild situations. This plays right into Nihilum's game since they are the strongest, they can manipulate situations into their favor more easily. Nihilum is loving that Azrael broke apart from RD and gave them more power on the server. Azrael has some PvP skills and level 60's but they are often blinded by their hatred and don't see the big picture. They are quick to make enemies and don't even understand what they are doing.

[Barladore]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heartbrand has created a very friendly and equal guild for all walks of life on the server. It really rustles my jimmies to see Azrael totally undermine his efforts and break off at the most opportune moment. All while stealing and poaching members to help fill in their voids. I understand that it is a very intelligent move for ensuring their own success and ability to compete, but it really has no redeeming character to it.

You guys want to be this strong resistance and fight Nihilum but you just split the resistance into 2. I don’t really understand. Is it you do not like being under command of Heartbrand? Or is Lite really that amazing of a leader? Things could have been discussed in order to maintain our strong resistance and integrity. Now all is lost and if Azrael does not succeed, even more bridges have been burnt between the limited resistance members that have not already joined Nihilum.

The truth is the majority of azrael virtually quit around the time Red Dawn was picking up steam. Lite was playing casually at best and anyone that was left over was forced to either join RD or nihilum if they wanted any part of Red99 end game. Azrael's stance was that without variance or simulated patch days there was no point in trying to fight the massive numbers nihilum had on repop day. From there the 10-15 actives that were left began raiding and pvping with red dawn, which most of us enjoyed. Personally I found the DKP system well done and the guild well organized. Regardless of this, many if not all of these azrael's (who were now rolling with RD) still were holding out for an azrael researgeance, be it, in velious or simulated repops. The mentality of azrael players has always been to keep a tight knit crew of skilled pvpers to contest where possible. None of us hate HB, or anyone in Red Dawn for that matter. The reason for us leaving has absolutely nothing to do with nihilum or Red dawn. Azrael as a guild enjoy fighting with smaller numbers, we love the fact that there are 3 active guilds, we love the fact that there is more pvp now than ever. For anyone in RD that feels sleighted by this, dont be, we have nothing against the guild, we just prefer a smaller guild. For many of us, raiding with 40+, especially in kunark is not our idea of a good time. To ad to the 10-15 that left RD, about 25 more came back since simulated repops were added. Azrael was never "poaching" members, the azrael you see now have all either been in azrael at one point or they came on their own accord. Personally, I'd rather get no dragons than have nihilum let me have dragons. Thats not a shot at RD leadership, just the way I feel. Anyone that left RD, probably felt the same.

[lite]

Originally Posted by Barladore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The truth is the majority of azrael virtually quit around the time Red Dawn was picking up steam. Lite was playing casually at best and anyone that was left over was forced to either join RD or nihilum if they wanted any part of Red99 end game. Azrael's stance was that without variance or simulated patch days there was no point in trying to fight the massive numbers nihilum had on repop day. From there the 10-15 actives that were left began raiding and pvping with red dawn, which most of us enjoyed. Personally I found the DKP system well done and the guild well organized. Regardless of this, many if not all of these azrael's (who were now rolling with RD) still were holding out for an azrael researgeance, be it, in velious or simulated repops. The mentality of azrael players has always been to keep a tight knit crew of skilled pvpers to contest where possible. None of us hate HB, or anyone in Red Dawn for that matter. The reason for us leaving has absolutely nothing to do with nihilum or Red dawn. Azrael as a guild enjoy fighting with smaller numbers, we love the fact that there are 3 active guilds, we love the fact that there is more pvp now than ever. For anyone in RD that feels sleighted by this, dont be, we have nothing against the guild, we just prefer a smaller guild. For many of us, raiding with 40+, especially in kunark is not our idea of a good time. To ad to the 10-15 that left RD, about 25 more came back since simulated repops were added. Azrael was never "poaching" members, the azrael you see now have all either been in azrael at one point or they came on their own accord. Personally, I'd rather get no dragons than have nihilum let me have dragons. Thats not a shot at RD leadership, just the way I feel. Anyone that left RD, probably felt the same.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This + Checkraise is the fakest person on the server + I know Checkraise will end up back in Nihilum. Quote it.

[Heywood]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This + Checkraise is the fakest person on the server + I know Checkraise will end up back in Nihilum. Quote it.

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[Greegon]

Originally Posted by Barladore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None of us hate HB, or anyone in Red Dawn for that matter. The reason for us leaving has absolutely nothing to do with nihilum or Red dawn.

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This + Checkraise is the fakest person on the server + I know Checkraise will end up back in Nihilum. Quote it.

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