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Old 01-23-2014, 05:10 PM
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One of you TMOers should make a thread in the Raid Guild Discussion forum to actually discuss this with people that have a shake in it. Unfortunately Sloan will still be there =(
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:11 PM
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You really need the GMs to step in and tell you if its ok for guilds to sometimes raid together and sometimes not? Really?
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:11 PM
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GMs should step in to clarify if this is ok so other guilds can make adjustments in that case.
splitting TMO into TMO-A and TMO-B is not making an 'adjustment' lol

why won't you guys just rationally discuss the real issue that is bag limits
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:12 PM
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If you guys were really 2 guilds also you wouldnt be co-fighting on ffa mobs continuously for year+
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:13 PM
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splitting TMO into TMO-A and TMO-B is not making an 'adjustment' lol

why won't you guys just rationally discuss the real issue that is bag limits
They dont want to - what they clearly want here is to force FE and IB into either raiding together always or not raiding together ever because their ability to compete with their joint forces is not looking too hot. It doesnt take a genius to see this.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:14 PM
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If you guys were really 2 guilds also you wouldnt be co-fighting on ffa mobs.
TMO is the larger threat to each individually; hence we ally to fight the bigger power. Keep going on like you recently have though, and maybe that assessment will change.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:21 PM
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I think we should channel this effort into lobbying for removing (or raising) bag limits on repops. That's the real injustice.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:21 PM
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We've been competing with joint forces awhile with success....this is about keeping repops bag limits fair imo and the fact your raid force is getting double the loot and double the camp out chars as tmo in many cases. You cant deny this.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:22 PM
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Yes, two guilds are getting double the loot as one when a bag limit is enforced on rotations. Four guilds are also getting four times the loot as one. I dont think anyone denied this and the point is moot.

It comes down to an attempt to claim FE and IB are one 'raidforce' even though they are two separate 'guilds' which amounts to an arbitrary reshuffling of existing categories to suit your argument. You cannot redefine these things at will - FE and IB are distinct guilds that choose to work together when it benefits them, and choose to work individually when it benefits them. Sometimes FE and IB will work together on repops; sometimes they wont. The only thing that matters is that they adhere to the bag limit rules in the instance that they do combine forces.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:24 PM
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Again with the 2 guilds thing. You guys raid as 1 force 90% of the time and were talking about raid rules. Youre 1 force as far as im concerned. You cant have it both ways. If you can, tmo can.
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