Re: Raid Situation

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ukinda forgot casuals low levels players whined cried because they got excluded at first from zones like pov,bot, hoh.... in planes of power.

They won although they spend months crying because it was impossible for them finish the old trials and get flaged .

Flags weren't removed until PoP was no longer current, if I remember correctly. Regardless, people on Live whined because content was too hard. People here are whining because not enough content is available. I'm not sure it's an equal comparison.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flags weren't removed until PoP was no longer current, if I remember correctly. Regardless, people on Live whined because content was too hard. People here are whining because not enough content is available. I'm not sure it's an equal comparison.

Trials where seriusly gimped and later flags removed , ciroco , i remember when exe trial the executioner couldn be slowed and the % slow max was a new thing and made it way harder for people.

later u could bring even DC pets from outside to trial before it u couldnt .

omens first trials have mobs with the dps of a potime boss , u needed a perfect group for it.

the list goes for long .
thats why most modern gaming companys took the aproach to give everyone a easier game , and make profit , aka pay to win.

[Joroz]

It's real hard to determine who is whining/crying more between hardcore raiders and casuals, someone should make a poll. My guess is hardcore raiders atm but it might weighted by a few people that have a lot more tears than the rest.

[chickmagnet]

what stops those casual guilds from raiding areas during the mobs window for a chance of spawn, beyond contrary belief every tmo/fe/ib do not have all their characters with epics....I see your standpoint, but these guilds aren't even trying, how often do you see them tracking, im not saying for entire spawn, at least to check if is up? the point of my argument is that im trying to encourage them to put forth the effort of making this a more competitive game.....if rotations were to be done, that would kill off tracking...people would join guilds with better reputations or where their friends are and guilds would get away with loot council on everything to gear up officers or friends before community, dkp shows merit and the value a member puts forth for their guild....and god forbid, A-Team would have their epics

[Joroz]

Originally Posted by chickmagnet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but these guilds aren't even trying

Did you see any mobs left up while tmo was suspended? A lot of guilds got into the action.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by Joroz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you see any mobs left up while tmo was suspended? A lot of guilds got into the action.

He thinks T2 guilds don't use DKP; pretty sure he lives in a bubble.

[Joroz]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He thinks T2 guilds don't use DKP; pretty sure he lives in a bubble.

don't see the relevance of DKP to guilds showing plenty of effort when the raid scene isn't being dominated by questionable tactics.

[Ciroco]

Nor do I, but chickmagnet seems to think using DKP increases poopsock willingness.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Joroz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you see any mobs left up while tmo was suspended? A lot of guilds got into the action.

when there is no competition joroz , im the first to admit the hugue delay in velious have a impact in how the server developed.

i mean is very easy to blame , ib, tmo fe and bda in the end the truth this clusterfuck is due to lack of new things to people.


A prime example of this is my own guild tmo, at some point we lacked competition (wich started when tmo was FE and tmo was ib)and we turned into farm mode , people got bored and they levelñed alts, those alts of course are even more fun if they twink, so loot went to alts.
slowly guild decays but since remains realy uncontested guild get bloated(tmo never stoped to recruit, something hurted back in the IB).

Time pass and my guild only joy is competition if u look at the uncontested period pre FE tmo didint even half the strengh it had prior the froovy dupe and the following suspension.

suddenly FE rises and TMO is again in full road , good or bad the truth that kind of things keep the guild in motion.


whats the problem?FE suddenly have to deal and compete with alot of alts with good gear raid and motivated people , so its not like the TMO/IB first raid contest.


yes there is drama there is shit btw 2 guilds , im the first to admit i bashed people like tasslehoff and other FE members... list goes on.


but the thruth is suddenly we got cornered and when suspension was lifted fe ib tmo whre sittin at vp doors in a new scenario of competition, how it would have worked?.

i got no idea would have been fun to dicover once the 3 guild zoned into vp.


Now the drama is wich direction is the server rogean going to take . because there will be a fallout whatever rogean decision takes.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i mean is very easy to blame , ib, tmo fe and bda in the end the truth this clusterfuck is due to lack of new things to people.

Quite a bit of Kunark is new to many of the players on this server, though they don't even get the chance to get bored of it because of all the players that say it's stagnant and old, yet still play it all the damn time anyway.

If this content is so stale that the only way you can enjoy it is by making a competition out of it, why not play red and let other people enjoy what you're not having fun with?