quick pvp video from dreadlands earlier

[Witness]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly the fight was fun and yet really stupid..

Half the time was spent trying to figure out who was on LNS and was still actually in the zone to pvp.

If we are going to stick with this LNS where people cannot re enter the fight then we need to say that you cannot enter the zone or zones connecting until the fight is over. If you do and someone kills you then you will be suspended not the person killing you. This would at least help a lot.

you guys were by far the biggest offender of this. just in the 4 minute video posted here by nilbog you can see several naked nihilum that tried to rez/bind rush. at 2:10 is shipit.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Witness [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys were by far the biggest offender of this. just in the 4 minute video posted here by nilbog you can see several naked nihilum that tried to rez/bind rush. at 2:10 is shipit.

Shipit was bound in DL.. He died. He went back to his corpse on LNS. He cast NO spells, or touched anyone and was looting his corpse when he was killed doing so. This happened to him TWICE.

LNS was denied by Red Dawn this is the exact same thing Tune/Spectre was banned for.

[mcappy]

Seems like monitoring for battle rezzes during mass PvP is nearly impossible. It'd be nice if everyone followed a no-rez rule, but that'll never happen.

If a cleric can get to a corpse and has time to rez it without being killed, I don't see a problem with that person returning to the fight.

In other words, I think "corpse camping" should be legal in big fights until a dead player requests LNS, in which case they're responsible for getting their own corpse and leaving until the fight is over (i.e. the guild sitting on your corpse doesn't have to allow a cleric to rez). I also think using zone lines as a divider between scooting and not scooting is dumb. If a fight spans two zones, 'scooting' should mean taking yourself out of the fight entirely, not just crossing the zoneline and fighting there instead.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by mcappy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems like monitoring for battle rezzes during mass PvP is nearly impossible. It'd be nice if everyone followed a no-rez rule, but that'll never happen.

If a cleric can get to a corpse and has time to rez it without being killed, I don't see a problem with that person returning to the fight.

In other words, I think "corpse camping" should be legal in big fights until a dead player requests LNS, in which case they're responsible for getting their own corpse and leaving until the fight is over (i.e. the guild sitting on your corpse doesn't have to allow a cleric to rez). I also think using zone lines as a divider between scooting and not scooting is dumb. If a fight spans two zones, 'scooting' should mean taking yourself out of the fight entirely, not just crossing the zoneline and fighting there instead.

Resses are hard to see if they happen. But what is harder is the person bound near the fight, they run back loot and then re enter the fight casting spells.

We saw a red dawn enc die, run back and loot and then start tashing people. This is just the example I saw personally.

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Resses are hard to see if they happen. But what is harder is the person bound near the fight, they run back loot and then re enter the fight casting spells.

We saw a red dawn enc die, run back and loot and then start tashing people. This is just the example I saw personally.

Who?

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who?

he has to be talking about dango, but we heard a different story from his perspective. he said he got attacked immediately, so what is he supposed to do just sit there and die and give you guys more YT to brag about?

edit: also at this point you guys had already started rezzing people back in for them to continue fighting.

[Buhbuh]

It's likely that you saw Dango doing that after he was being attacked on LnS.

The whole ordeal just devolves into "fight fire with fire," so when one side commits one grievance, it's met with the same treatment, and then the chain reaction, and the downward spiral, and so on.

These rules are gonna feel shitty on both sides at different times in the future. It's really in everyone's best interest to come together on some server wide behavioral standards in PvP.

I was under the impression (from the Nagafen fight) and thought that GMs were pretty clear on their ruling about players dying in mass PvP, that the dead people needed to stay away from zones close to the battle (as in, "once you're dead, you're done until it's all over with").

All of Red Dawn treated this Dreadlands fight that way (hence Red Dawn being morbidly surprised to find Nihilum claiming zone control of DL, which, in turn, gave them all the validation they needed to res all their dead "legally" and continue fighting over and over and over. That fundamental difference in how each guild interpreted and followed server rules is what fucked us.

[IronLionn]

Dukes Enemys, ITs whats for dinner

[Mac Dretti]

Dango = k9quaint the bind rushing pnp lns violating cry baby.

Also logs show him in ooc tears over ajax violating LnS even tho ajax never died. These guys are all idiots.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dango = k9quaint the bind rushing pnp lns violating cry baby.

Also logs show him in ooc tears over ajax violating LnS even tho ajax never died. These guys are all idiots.

Retti forumquesting about LnS policies while Tune throws him under the bus as an account stripping whore : )