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[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To use the car analogy. This is equivalent to your friend selling meth, then driving your car without meth, then being caught with having sold meth the year before, and the police find out he drove your car a few times and they impound it.

When they catch him, he has copies of your keys. He has a duplicate title. How do we discern whose car it truly is? How do we prove it?

This is the risk inherent in sharing accounts.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

their actions while on your account, not while on other accounts a year ago =P this is a new expectation

any account that was logged on by the exploiting IP since they were first found to be exploiting should be banned

anything before should be irrelevant. simple enough.

whether or not they actually exploited from every account in question is immaterial. if i dupe 100 million plat on one account, but play 15 others, you're going to just ban the duping account while i go on my merry way?

newp

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no good excuse for not banning the accounts imo

it has been CLEARLY set forth as a server rule that if you share info, you are responsible for the actions of anyone who logs into your account

if 84 people were genuinely innocent (HIGHLY doubtful) but dumb enough to trust two exploiters, then 84 people sacrificed their accounts for froovy's sins

more likely, 2 prominent members without plausible deniability are taking the fall for an exploit that was rampant and well-known

the old lee Harvey Oswald trick

[Ehna Ne'Nah]

It's been two years since these guys shit on us without worrying about rules and other people.
Today, they try to make us believe that the involvement of 86 accounts in the same guild is an unfortunate incident and that nobody knew (after all it's christmas).

Not to mention the RMT ... It should be explained to me one day what you can buy in EQ with milions and millions plats ... but dollards ...

[quido]

http://wiki.project1999.com/index.ph...ed_Great_Staff

Going price is about 3 million.

[DrKvothe]

Has anyone confirmed that the exploits were not actually performed on the 84 other accounts, and that the exploiters just moved goods through these accounts?

That seems to be the version of the story that some here want us to believe, but that doesn't match the GM's announcement imo.

[heazels]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has anyone confirmed that the exploits were not actually performed on the 84 other accounts, and that the exploiters just moved goods through these accounts?

That seems to be the version of the story that some here want us to believe, but that doesn't match the GM's announcement imo.

which points to TMO knowing more than what they are announcing. Like 86 accounts purchased/farmed up with Duped plat.

[BurgyK]

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[nalkin]

Here is my question. The other accounts that were accessed by the cheaters and banned... did any cheating occur on those accounts or were they banned because the cheaters logged in on them? If cheating occurred on them they should be banned if cheating did not occur on them they shouldn't, imo.

[quido]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is my question. The other accounts that were accessed by the cheaters and banned... did any cheating occur on those accounts or were they banned because the cheaters logged in on them? If cheating occurred on them they should be banned if cheating did not occur on them they shouldn't, imo.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There were only a handful of accounts that were used to perform the exploit, however, the exploiters have logged into 106 different accounts in total.

Every account they've ever logged into was banned. Most were never exploited on.