About Spawn variance.... - Page 15

Valent · #1 07-24-2010, 01:48 PM

"How about guilds that actively seeks to kill raid targets are only allowed to vote on raiding rules?"

IB and DA get to make the rules

Bumamgar · #2 07-24-2010, 01:49 PM

For what it's worth, WI, IB and DA have already worked together to agree on a raid-rule proposal and sent it to Nilbog...

Valent · #3 07-24-2010, 01:51 PM

Bum your casual guild reputation could not possibly get any worse

Humerox · #4 07-24-2010, 01:51 PM

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For what it's worth, WI, IB and DA have already worked together to agree on a raid-rule proposal and sent it to Nilbog...

Not good enough.

Where's the representation from other guilds? Transcendence, Divinity, and Remedy at the very least?

Ghaz · #5 07-24-2010, 02:10 PM

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For what it's worth, WI, IB and DA have already worked together to agree on a raid-rule proposal and sent it to Nilbog...

So, because WI has poopsocked for what..one week? They have a say in how end-game raiding goes..If that's what non-poopsocking guilds have to do to have a voice then I'll gladly leave my character logged in for a week.

Skope · #6 07-24-2010, 02:13 PM

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So, because WI has poopsocked for what..one week? They have a say in how end-game raiding goes..If that's what non-poopsocking guilds have to do to have a voice then I'll gladly leave my character logged in for a week.

No, apparently a new guild that's never taken down a target gets more say than guilds who've done so without the need to poopsock. That's what you call a backdoor deal and it comes from the mouth of Bumamgar himself. But i guess because his name is in blue that's okay.

Humerox · #7 07-24-2010, 02:16 PM

Problem is a proposal was sent down the pike without involving other guilds.

By "casual" do you mean non-poopsocking? Because I can tell you this...Divinity would be a whole lot more involved in it if it weren't for the socking. We didn't want to reduce ourselves to competing at that level.

Humerox · #8 07-24-2010, 01:50 PM

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How about guilds that actively seeks to kill raid targets are only allowed to vote on raiding rules?

That sounds more fair to me. I dont really want Transcendence's rag team to have power over decisions.

Fair to whom?

All interested guilds should have a voice in what determining what happens on the server.

Bumamgar · #9 07-24-2010, 02:15 PM

Love the flames guys... but the funny thing is, not one of you "casual guild" members who sent me PMs etc asked either of the most important questions:

What was the proposal?

Did Nilbog accept it?

So flame on, but you should know, the proposal was for First to Engage and a larger spawn variance window (+/- 7 days on 7 day mobs, making them essentially random spawns).

Pretty sure based on everything I've seen on these forums that both of these rules are exactly what the folks flaming me would have asked for anyway....

Edit: The only reason WI got a "say" btw, is because it was our officer who contacted IB and DA and brokered the deal.

Skope · #10 07-24-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love the flames guys... but the funny thing is, not one of you "casual guild" members who sent me PMs etc asked either of the most important questions:

What was the proposal?

Did Nilbog accept it?

So flame on, but you should know, the proposal was for First to Engage and a larger spawn variance window (+/- 7 days on 7 day mobs, making them essentially random spawns).

Pretty sure based on everything I've seen on these forums that both of these rules are exactly what the folks flaming me would have asked for anyway....

No, it isn't and nor would I have been, but don't think for a second that if your name wasn't blue you wouldn't have been given preferential treatment by IB/DA. Thanks for outing the proposal by the way, only after the flames and accusations.

There have been better proposals than that and they've been shot down damn near immediately, and don't think your FTE or random spawn were ground-breaking either, as both have been discusses before. Which again brings me to my previous post, who the hell are you to make back-door deals with IB/DA? When you can answer that than perhaps I can get to the remainder of my questions, including the details and specifics of the proposal. If it's one thing I learned whilst raiding here it's that every guild and everyone has their own incentive, you're no exception.