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[President]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fine, that's fair -- he didn't need to. But it's an exceedingly common strategy, one that Elisa correctly predicted he would utilize. The point is that they understood he was strategically breaking the camp. Nocte did, because he told her. The rest of the group did, because she relayed the message.

This was not a case of the enchanter requesting unreasonable patience, nor was it a case of the group attacking the King out of ignorance as to the enchanter's plans. Literally the second the enchanter zones out, one of the group members shouts in capital letters to rush the King. Why the urgency, if in fact the group member believed they were in the right? Why the urgency, if in fact they did not know the enchanter would be back in an instant? The fact that he was in another zone is a matter of semantics. He didn't run to GFay and pick up IVU pots. He was working the camp. This isn't a court of law, it's an informal arbitration of ethics.

If the group's intent was to steal the camp when he zoned, then they never should have agreed to a deal in which he could have the next spawn cycle. But you and I both know that their intent shifted drastically when the King popped with the Mithril 2-hander. If the PH pops, the group abides by their deal, the enchanter holds up his end, and everybody walks away happy.

In agreement again, multiple people in the last few posts have stated that was the first problem they made, making some kind of "deal." Sure, the mith-2h changes things, they had been camping their for X amount of time, had to go to the zone to get two more people, and wiped in doing so and had to CR. And of course, there would be urgency. That might be his strategy, they might know that is his strategy, but he still, per the rules, he does not own the camp. Just like, per the rules, the CR'ing group did not.

I am not disputing the fact with you that the group was in the wrong, what I am disputing is your notion that the enchanter was totally and completely in the right and was an angel in this whole situation.

[Shewz]

President is just trying to vilify me take blame off of Dravyen, Slappie, Elisa, and Sernity. He's saying I'm "crying" on the forums, he's implying that I knew they were on a CR before I broke the camp, he's saying I'm acting out of pure greed, calling me a liar, a child, a dick, a failure as an enchanter, and the list goes on. I hope this is as obvious to everyone else as it is to me.

I wanted to delete this thread after Autum gave the sword back, but it's apparently not an option. Now I have to defend myself because President and others want to make me the bad guy.

But it's pointless. I can keep defending myself, nitpicking every event, assembling the evidence, but really President has his agenda and can paint any picture he wants with my words, without even having witnessed the incident.

I know now to just tell groups to get bent and leave me alone.

I have to say though, one thing really bothering me is this:
"The funny thing is this whole thread COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED had the enchanter not been a COMPLETE FAILURE and actually break the camp properly without resorting to "enchanter for dummies" guidebook."

If you look closely in the logs you'll see them taking the only bok knight from the camp. I watched that happen. That's why I had to use a kor shaman, that's why I had to zone to heal it. Sorry I'm not up to your standards.

Good night.

[nicemace]

real enchanters (like me) charm the king, kill trash till its on 1% break charm then last hit like a boss.

[Stepy]

If you broke the camp and was holding it there would be no need for all this zoning back and forth to re-break.
It would seem your intention were to wait for all to respawn before leaving camp but the king spawning made you change your mind.
You continue to act as thou they are the bad people are your were the only good even after they were kind enough to give you the sword. Have a good time in EC.
I like how you say they gave it back, as if it was yours regardless.
You should appreciate that they at least gave you a shot at it and just left instead of waiting for a full spawn. Not all of them may not have had good intentions but they did wait for you too attempt to break camp again. I like to be fair about things but i don't think i would have wanted to wait till you were finally successful at your attempt to re-break.

[Stepy]

In situations like this it isn't easy to have a perfect solution either party could have done many different things including leaving the camp completely.
The fact that they reached an agreement with you and in return you decide to reciprocate with leaving with a full spawn which unfortunately lead to this mess had the King not spawned there would be no issue.

[Agaron]

Lol @ ss's
Lol @ OP being 100% legit
Lol @ Div flaming other guilds in ss's
Lol @ Div trying to defend themselves for 22 pages

I'm actually kind of glad I got rejected. Hell your recruitment staff is on point with that group of fine quality members.

[President]

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

President is just trying to vilify me take blame off of Dravyen, Slappie, Elisa, and Sernity. He's saying I'm "crying" on the forums, he's implying that I knew they were on a CR before I broke the camp, he's saying I'm acting out of pure greed, calling me a liar, a child, a dick, a failure as an enchanter, and the list goes on. I hope this is as obvious to everyone else as it is to me.

I wanted to delete this thread after Autum gave the sword back, but it's apparently not an option. Now I have to defend myself because President and others want to make me the bad guy.

But it's pointless. I can keep defending myself, nitpicking every event, assembling the evidence, but really President has his agenda and can paint any picture he wants with my words, without even having witnessed the incident.

I know now to just tell groups to get bent and leave me alone.

I have to say though, one thing really bothering me is this:
"The funny thing is this whole thread COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED had the enchanter not been a COMPLETE FAILURE and actually break the camp properly without resorting to "enchanter for dummies" guidebook."

If you look closely in the logs you'll see them taking the only bok knight from the camp. I watched that happen. That's why I had to use a kor shaman, that's why I had to zone to heal it. Sorry I'm not up to your standards.

Good night.

This is what you get for coming to R&F instead of going to an officer of the guild in question. Don't blame for coming to defend my guild because you were a dumb fuck and opened a can of worms on R&F.

[Stepy]

"You know there is a quote feature, right?"

Yes, i know but i like doing it the old fashion way.... cut and paste. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[President]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what you get for coming to R&F instead of going to an officer of the guild in question. Don't blame me for coming to defend my guild because you were a dumb fuck and opened a can of worms on R&F.

FIFM

[ClamSmasher22]

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know now to just tell groups to get bent and leave me alone.

No shit.

I once got robbed when I was young because I trusted some random stranger. After it happened I realized how fucking stupid I was for getting in that situation in the first place, and never since has that same thing happened again. I never told anyone about it because what I did was so fucking stupid.

Apparently that kind of shit doesn't bother you. Not only do you bring it to the internets to show your ass to the world, YOU BRING PROOF WITH SCREENSHOTS! And to top it all off you finish the post by indicating their guild is trash because of this. You, sir, are one classy motherfucker.

Stating their guild is crap because of what they do smacks of the same ignorant logic racists use. It's also just as stupid, and only appeals to other people who also have limited thought processes.

"One time I came across a car in front of circle k with the keys in the ignition. I got in and before I drove away four Mexicans came up and told me it was their car and they just went inside to get a drink. I told them they could have it back after I drove it around the block one time. They said OK. I then went inside to get a drink and those dirty bastards were in the car and driving away!!!! You guys shouldn't trust Mexicans, they're lying bastards!! (It's ok now, after I posted this those dirty Mexicans gave me the car [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That story is totally different then the one you told us about.