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[Sonderbeast]

Jones got away with a lot for a long time. It's about time he faced some sort of accountability. Youtube, Twitter, and Apple all are private companies with their own terms of use which Alex seems to have explicitly violated. They can ban me for it, why not him?

[clevergirl]

YouTube would ban me for some of my maerilith and runlvl posts. And they fucking should.

Imagine one of my weird rants up on YouTube and like 100,000 people all following me around saying death to the XYZ group.

You are only upset because it was Alex Jones banded. He's white. Sorta cis. Sorta straight. So it's scary he can't just "do and say whatever he wants".

Reality is the world doesn't work this way. And private companies aught to be accountable for any hate speech and propaganda they have. Not from the government. But from society and the people that makes up that society.

They totally did the right fair just adult thing.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jones got away with a lot for a long time. It's about time he faced some sort of accountability. Youtube, Twitter, and Apple all are private companies with their own terms of use which Alex seems to have explicitly violated. They can ban me for it, why not him?

you're making a martyr of him by not hosting his speech!

[Sonderbeast]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're making a martyr of him by not hosting his speech!

Let him be a martyr. He'll be forgotten in 2 years and no one will care.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're making a martyr of him by not hosting his speech!

If Youtube is a the main site everyone uploads videos to on the internet, and they're "hosting" everyone else's speech. It strikes me as a very different thing than -- for example -- a canceled a college lecturer. Not everyone gets a room to speak in at colleges with college advertising etc...

There are a handful of sites on the internet that platforms for everyone that just about everyone goes to. It is somewhat arbitrary. If everyone started using Myspace, Myspace would be that platform. These platforms are the modern method of communicating ideas.

I don't want anymore news gatekeepers. And that is precisely what this trial balloon is about. See when you want more power to spy on people, you talk terrorists and pedofiles. When you talk about deplatforming news making it more difficult to reach people -- you talk about Alex Jones.

But this is not about Alex Jones. It's about whether or not it is OK for some unelected corporate board to -- more or less secretly -- control our news.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Youtube is a the main site everyone uploads videos to on the internet, and they're "hosting" everyone else's speech. It strikes me as a very different thing than -- for example -- a canceled a college lecturer. Not everyone gets a room to speak in at colleges with college advertising etc...

There are a handful of sites on the internet that platforms for everyone that just about everyone goes to. It is somewhat arbitrary. If everyone started using Myspace, Myspace would be that platform. These platforms are the modern method of communicating ideas.

I don't want anymore news gatekeepers. And that is precisely what this trial balloon is about. See when you want more power to spy on people, you talk terrorists and pedofiles. When you talk about deplatforming news making it more difficult to reach people -- you talk about Alex Jones.

But this is not about Alex Jones. It's about whether or not it is OK for some unelected corporate board to -- more or less secretly -- control our news.

It is because it's not the federal government. First amendment, yo. Are coming from a point of view that total fascism is okay and needed because that's what it sounds like in how your notion is set up.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Youtube is a the main site everyone uploads videos to on the internet, and they're "hosting" everyone else's speech. It strikes me as a very different thing than -- for example -- a canceled a college lecturer. Not everyone gets a room to speak in at colleges with college advertising etc...

There are a handful of sites on the internet that platforms for everyone that just about everyone goes to. It is somewhat arbitrary. If everyone started using Myspace, Myspace would be that platform. These platforms are the modern method of communicating ideas.

I don't want anymore news gatekeepers. And that is precisely what this trial balloon is about. See when you want more power to spy on people, you talk terrorists and pedofiles. When you talk about deplatforming news making it more difficult to reach people -- you talk about Alex Jones.

But this is not about Alex Jones. It's about whether or not it is OK for some unelected corporate board to -- more or less secretly -- control our news.

if you wanna talk about a restructuring and/or expansion of rights that's fine and good but as the sticks stand now you're batting for the other team.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Youtube is a the main site everyone uploads videos to on the internet, and they're "hosting" everyone else's speech. It strikes me as a very different thing than -- for example -- a canceled a college lecturer. Not everyone gets a room to speak in at colleges with college advertising etc...

There are a handful of sites on the internet that platforms for everyone that just about everyone goes to. It is somewhat arbitrary. If everyone started using Myspace, Myspace would be that platform. These platforms are the modern method of communicating ideas.

I don't want anymore news gatekeepers. And that is precisely what this trial balloon is about. See when you want more power to spy on people, you talk terrorists and pedofiles. When you talk about deplatforming news making it more difficult to reach people -- you talk about Alex Jones.

But this is not about Alex Jones. It's about whether or not it is OK for some unelected corporate board to -- more or less secretly -- control our news.

First of all:

1. Aleix Jones is not news.
2. If you pretend Alex Jones is news, then you have to pretend that the daily show and John Oliver are news.
3. If you pretend those outlets are news then they are just as bad as the same FOX news for spinning Hyperbole into biased rants and "news"

Now heres some more

4. you cant be a socialist and then say the free market will solve this problem
5. the free market cannot compete with youtube:

youtube provides $$$ to creators immediately. It took youtube over a decade of providing a free service and operating at a loss before it was able to do this.

Therefore it would take another service arguably a decade to build the user base that youtube required to monazite creator videos.

Even VIMEO cannot compete with youtube and attract creators because it cannot provide the same profits that youtube can.

There will be no competitor to youtube. It is arguable that YouTube has a type of strangle hold on information on the internet.

Not to mention google can legally, secretly, throttle competition now lol

I am a bit concerned about youtube, but then again I could care less cus its all just cartoons for adult babies.

[mickmoranis]

#nogoodcops

https://www.wftv.com/news/national-n...scue/807182161

#ADMITYOUAREWRONG

[clevergirl]

Dude bros it's not deplatforming news. It's deplatforming hate.

I don't have a right to walk into a megachurch and run up on stage and start spewing hate and fucking vitriol.

Not unless I own it.

If you want to build hatetube or hatenews . Com

Pay for it yourself.

No self respecting company should advertise on your platform either.

You guys are about as anti fucking freedom free markets private property as it gets.

You want the government to do absolutely fucking everything and be in everyone's fucking business and morality.

That's why I say fuck it. It's not worth saving people who think like that and refuse to change.