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Old 07-07-2023, 06:44 PM
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Instead of glass bottles give them plastic sippy cups. Less mess too

Since we can’t have dangerous things
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Old 07-07-2023, 07:23 PM
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Instead of glass bottles give them plastic sippy cups. Less mess too

Since we can’t have dangerous things
“Glassing is a relatively small portion of all alcohol-related violence, constituting 9% of injuries from alcohol-related violence in New South Wales, from 1999 to 2011, for instance.”

Pretty sure the US can pump more injuries and death with tall drink of AR15

Brilliant that some think knives and glass are better tool *roll eyes
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Old 07-07-2023, 07:31 PM
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“Glassing is a relatively small portion of all alcohol-related violence, constituting 9% of injuries from alcohol-related violence in New South Wales, from 1999 to 2011, for instance.”

Pretty sure the US can pump more injuries and death with tall drink of AR15

Brilliant that some think knives and glass are better tool *roll eyes
Firearms were involved in about 4% of the alcohol-related violent incidents.
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Old 07-07-2023, 08:10 PM
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26 years ago in what state? Meh w/e…
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Old 07-07-2023, 08:21 PM
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Fr. I almost glassed a guy with a beer mug after I got sucker punched at a bar in Yucca Valley one time. I wouldn't have stabbed him with it, but it was a stein type glass, and the bartender assessed that it was about to be evidence, because the blow didn't really faze me and I gave the tell of looking down at my glass before I clubbed him with it and she grasped the mug, first, before closing distance in a side hug, and asking me to shrug it off.
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Old 07-07-2023, 08:47 PM
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“Glassing is a relatively small portion of all alcohol-related violence, constituting 9% of injuries from alcohol-related violence in New South Wales, from 1999 to 2011, for instance.”

Pretty sure the US can pump more injuries and death with tall drink of AR15

Brilliant that some think knives and glass are better tool *roll eyes
Way more people are killed by handguns than AR15s, but that's just a minor detail. Like I've mentioned a million times there are far more defensive uses of guns (of all types) every year than there are mass shootings. Those people who were saved by guns would be dead if there were no guns, so you're just swapping out one bodycount for a different one. When you factor that in, no guns = more dangerous society for any given generic individual.
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Old 07-07-2023, 09:29 PM
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Anyhow, I would advise us all to observe the dog a little more closely. He's so stubborn, that, sometimes, when you're walking him, he just stops to smell a flower, or whatever, and you want to continue your walk because it's perfectly reasonable to continue walking because it optimizes the "time of the walk", but, more than often, the pause is an important one, in ways that we will never really understand.


Consider the off-trail walk with an unleashed dog, running ahead of you, pridefully returning with a token glympse of what lie on the trail ahead of you; "shall I not, run, on the trail we walk, together, man-Jesus-God, my very, best friend?"
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Old 07-07-2023, 09:43 PM
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Way more people are killed by handguns than AR15s, but that's just a minor detail. Like I've mentioned a million times there are far more defensive uses of guns (of all types) every year than there are mass shootings. Those people who were saved by guns would be dead if there were no guns, so you're just swapping out one bodycount for a different one. When you factor that in, no guns = more dangerous society for any given generic individual.
Do you have a good source for statistics on guns used in self defense? Not contradicting you, I'm genuinely interested in seeing the data if it's available.
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Old 07-07-2023, 10:27 PM
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Do you have a good source for statistics on guns used in self defense? Not contradicting you, I'm genuinely interested in seeing the data if it's available.
It seems impossible to measure

Example, a true RL anecdote from a friend of the family. He used to work as a pizza delivery driver and was often in bad parts of town. So he always carried a handgun. He said one late night a group of disreputable guys were walking quickly down the sidewalk his way, and one of them was carrying a bat. None had any other baseball equipment. He said he waited until they got in eyesight of him in the street light and he pulled out his gun pointed down. He said the guys slowed down and switched crossing the street and continued on

Was he paranoid? Did having that gun prevent him from having his brains bashed in for his tip jar? Did he report possibly defending himself with a gun to the Defending Yourself With A Gun Official Federal Database? He did not
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Old 07-07-2023, 10:47 PM
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Way more people are killed by handguns than AR15s, but that's just a minor detail. Like I've mentioned a million times there are far more defensive uses of guns (of all types) every year than there are mass shootings. Those people who were saved by guns would be dead if there were no guns, so you're just swapping out one bodycount for a different one. When you factor that in, no guns = more dangerous society for any given generic individual.
That your Ben Shapiro debate talent?

-First pat self on back relating the sheer number of handguns vs AR15s as fact. Then mention it is inconsequential to the discussion.

-Then another anecdotal mention about guns being used more defensively vs the number of mass shootings.

-Then mention guns used defensively saves lives verse everything…. Like even other guns!

Then make an absolute bonkers assumption with no data that no guns in a society is more dangerous for all!

Sure sounds like a fun game of tangenting wildly for an escape topic.

Stay in school kids. Stay away from brainwashing Ben Shapiro podcasts.

Want to next mention more gun accidents happen in the home?
Or only you can prevent forest fires?
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