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Old 07-07-2023, 12:27 PM
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One of my wife's best friends, a latina woman, married a Jewish man who works in bidding on large-scale commercial construction projects (who then sells the contracts to actual construction companies) got awarded 5,500$/month in child support for one, of her two children from different dads, and she lives in income-qualified section 8 housing, with food stamps and the whole rigamarole, and it's all on the up and up.
Most of the poor black single parent mothers of multiple children I talk to in my job say they have never collected a cent of child support because the dad has no wages to garnish

/shrug just what I hear
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Old 07-07-2023, 12:31 PM
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On the other side of it, with child support often being awarded at the maximal child support contribution of 55% of income, a man can "diversify" his child support obligations by siring his children with multiple women, so as to minimize his per-capita contribution toward each child's support. That, too, is supportive of a polygynial superstructure which is geared towards K-selection, as previously stated
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Old 07-07-2023, 12:32 PM
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You can say whatever you want, but I grew up in inner-city schools in Texas with lots of minority kids, and there is most certainly a cultural difference between the white kids in their white families and the minority kids in their minority families.

Any culture that glorifies violence, crime, drug use, and sees prison time as a badge of honor will never succeed no matter how many policies or programs are put in place to nullify the absence of traditional values. They will always fail.

Maybe you think it's evil white racists huddling secretively around the corner from every earnest and good-hearted black person, but that sentiment will never change the deteriorating social structure in black homes. Too many people care about the dozen or so police officers that kill black men on usually justified reasons, but no one seems to give a shit about the hundreds of young black men killed by other young black men every single weekend across the nation. Somehow still whites are to blame when a young black man pulls the trigger.
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Old 07-07-2023, 12:33 PM
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Most of the poor black single parent mothers of multiple children I talk to in my job say they have never collected a cent of child support because the dad has no wages to garnish

/shrug just what I hear
Perhaps they should be more hawkish in their selection of mates, yeah?
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Old 07-07-2023, 12:37 PM
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On the other side of it, with child support often being awarded at the maximal child support contribution of 55% of income, a man can "diversify" his child support obligations by siring his children with multiple women, so as to minimize his per-capita contribution toward each child's support. That, too, is supportive of a polygynial superstructure which is geared towards K-selection, as previously stated
Assuming the man has income, which most won’t in poor black communities

From talking to black single mothers, I would say 90% report having no child support due to dad either being off the map or unemployed. They do collect TANF and get big tax refunds I believe, I don’t know all the ins and outs of their income, but it’s usually barely or not enough to even keep a vehicle running and gassed up

Also, usually the kids have major behavior problems due to the parent being overwhelmed. But the caveat is this doesn’t have much to do with them being black because white parents in their position are often also overwhelmed. Sometimes they have actually mostly behaved kids and then 1 really really misbehaved, or other times if the parent is really bad all the kids are completely out of control

And the second caveat is I have survivorship bias or whatever due to only seeing the negative spectrum from kinda bad to holy shit this is bad
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Old 07-07-2023, 12:52 PM
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When it comes to foster parents, there’s usually two things working against them:

1. Kids were either usually abused, neglected, and/or substance exposed. Aside from extreme cases of fetal Alcohol syndrome, substance exposure en vitro is not as bad as people expect. Usually there’s no outward signs, but it can and will fuck a kid’s brain chemistry in subtle ways I can’t explain. So trauma and substance exposure will contribute to negative behaviors

2. To a lesser extent, stability: kids who are used to unstable lives sometimes reject stability and create chaos to either push people away, or because chaos is what’s comfortable. But compared to the problems from category 1 above, things like reactive attachment disorder are minor in terms of what negative behaviors they produce
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Old 07-07-2023, 01:16 PM
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We didn't get that far. I don't want to add unnecessary risk to our lives, but we all die someday, right?

Might still adopt a kid. Cancer fuckin' sucks bruh.
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Old 07-07-2023, 01:17 PM
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On the other side of it, with child support often being awarded at the maximal child support contribution of 55% of income, a man can "diversify" his child support obligations by siring his children with multiple women, so as to minimize his per-capita contribution toward each child's support. That, too, is supportive of a polygynial superstructure which is geared towards K-selection, as previously stated
Uhh, leaving litters of kids all over town sounds more like r selection to me, for both the man and the woman. Bunch of kids growing up in resource and parenting-poor homes
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Old 07-07-2023, 01:23 PM
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Uhh, leaving litters of kids all over town sounds more like r selection to me, for both the man and the woman. Bunch of kids growing up in resource and parenting-poor homes
Seems I've flipped my Ks and Rs
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Old 07-07-2023, 02:23 PM
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When it comes to foster parents, there’s usually two things working against them:

1. Kids were either usually abused, neglected, and/or substance exposed. Aside from extreme cases of fetal Alcohol syndrome, substance exposure en vitro is not as bad as people expect. Usually there’s no outward signs, but it can and will fuck a kid’s brain chemistry in subtle ways I can’t explain. So trauma and substance exposure will contribute to negative behaviors

2. To a lesser extent, stability: kids who are used to unstable lives sometimes reject stability and create chaos to either push people away, or because chaos is what’s comfortable. But compared to the problems from category 1 above, things like reactive attachment disorder are minor in terms of what negative behaviors they produce
My wife has always talked about adopting a kid, but I just can't get on board with it. I have known 4 different families adopting kids and they had nothing but problems. Now this is of course different than simply fostering kids, which has to be an even wilder ride, and I suppose adopting kids when they're infants is probably much better in the long run, but damn if you don't have to deal with the issues that are either baked into them or taught to them at an early age.
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