Another told you so! Ukraine is getting owned!

[Trexller]

oh it's not a coup attempt

it's a "special military disagreement"

[Botten]

So the Ukraine war is coming to a screeching halt. And Trump was arrested. It is like the GOP is always getting it wrong.

[arvidez]

they are stupid? nice arguement. but what if they called you a big doodoo dummy head for calling it insurrection.

[Trexller]

Belarusian president Lukashenko has reportedly negotiated a deal where Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will relocate to Belarus.

Prigozhin halted Wagner's advance 120 miles from Moscow quote "to avoid shedding russian blood"

So the russian army and wagner pretend to fight as a false flag, the Wagner PMC relocates to Belarus, north of Ukraine where they could be ~75 miles from Kyiv within Belarusian territory.

either that or Prigozhin is gonna be found to have fallen from a roof or having drank radioactive tea

but the Wagner PMC forces are invaluable to the russian war effort, and if they kill Prigozhin they will make him a martyr.

Wagner mercenaries who "did not take part in the rebellion" are being offered contracts directly from the russian army.

This is some weird AF shit here folks.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Belarusian president Lukashenko has reportedly negotiated a deal where Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will relocate to Belarus.

Prigozhin halted Wagner's advance 120 miles from Moscow quote "to avoid shedding russian blood"

So the russian army and wagner pretend to fight as a false flag, the Wagner PMC relocates to Belarus, north of Ukraine where they could be ~75 miles from Kyiv within Belarusian territory.

either that or Prigozhin is gonna be found to have fallen from a roof or having drank radioactive tea

but the Wagner PMC forces are invaluable to the russian war effort, and if they kill Prigozhin they will make him a martyr.

Wagner mercenaries who "did not take part in the rebellion" are being offered contracts directly from the russian army.

This is some weird AF shit here folks.

and now this: Putin says leaders behind failed Wagner mutiny in Russia will be brought to justice

so I don't know what to believe or what's going on. Looks like Putin has altered the deal. Wonder if that will piss Wagner off and spark a new coup attempt or if this is some ruse to maneuver leadership and assets around to strike Kyiv from Belarus like has been suggested.

[MrSparkle001]

It gets worse:

Plan to blow up Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant approved, situation has never been so severe before ― Chief of Defence Intelligence

According to the head of the Defence Intelligence, Russia's order to commit a terrorist attack on the ZNPP may have been caused by the defeat of the Russian occupation forces on the Left Bank of Dnipro ― Russia considers creation of a nuclear disaster zone a safeguard for the further advance of the defence forces of Ukraine.

At the same time, according to Budanov, there is a risk that the Russian Federation may cause a radiation leak at the ZNPP as a "preventive measure" to stop Ukraine's offensive operation and freeze the front line in its current form.

There is frustration in Ukrainian intelligence and government circles that the international community's response to the destruction of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant dam on 6 June was so muted that this could provoke further use of "scorched Earth tactic," the newspaper notes.

and a few days ago the U.S. proposed this to NATO (https://www.newsweek.com/russia-amba...kraine-1808577 and emphasis added by me):

The proposed resolution "views the use of any tactical nuclear weapon by the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus, or their proxies, or the destruction of a nuclear facility, dispersing radioactive contaminates into NATO territory causing significant harm to human life as an attack on NATO requiring an immediate response, including the implementation of Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty."

Now the question is, is it true? IMO it's entirely possible Putin would do this.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or the destruction of a nuclear facility, dispersing radioactive contaminates into NATO territory causing significant harm to human life as an attack on NATO requiring an immediate response, including the implementation of Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty."

lol Zelensky sitting there pondering secretly blowing up a nuclear plant like "hmmmmmmm, that clause doesn't say by whom"

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol Zelensky sitting there pondering secretly blowing up a nuclear plant like "hmmmmmmm, that clause doesn't say by whom"

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russia controls that territory, it would require air strikes for ukraine to pull a nuclear false flag.

everyone would know who did it, much like the nova kakhovka dam. it blew up on the russian controlled side, and it's like millions of tons of steel reinforced concrete, so the only way to blow it is with literal tonnes of explosives planted within the structure

and russia still blames ukraine. even tho ukraine had just started their offensive, and blowing dams is land defense 101.

but russia still blames ukraine for blowing up a dam that they couldn't access and the act of makes life worse for the ukrainian military.

Zelensky has a magical faucet that dumps money in his country as long as russians are doin shit.

Why mess that up? he should hope the russians never leave

[unsunghero]

I remember hearing how Putin blamed the mutiny on us saying we want to see Russians kill each other or something

And if I were president it would be tempting to respond with a simple, deadpan, “yes”

Like seriously? Is this guy going to clutch pearls over the fact that the rest of the world wants bad things for Russia? How naive is he pretending to be??

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember hearing how Putin blamed the mutiny on us saying we want to see Russians kill each other or something

And if I were president it would be tempting to respond with a simple, deadpan, “yes”

Like seriously? Is this guy going to clutch pearls over the fact that the rest of the world wants bad things for Russia? How naive is he pretending to be??

Russia invented this thing called a samovar that Persians use to make tea

Other than that I have nothing good to say about them in my many encounters over the years in oil and natural gas. That said, I’ve worked with Russians, Vietnamese, Chinese, Venezuelans, and a few others and I didn’t like them much either. Maybe it’s just petroleum engineers are dickheads everywhere (the Vietnamese were mechanical and this was when I worked for a company that designed and built ship thrusters)