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Patriam1066 · #**1421** 08-11-2014, 05:03 PM

I just finished watching Preston's videos... I see why you think Jon Snow is an idiot now Sirken....
How certain are we that Mance wrote the pink letter? It's obvious that it wasn't Ramsay, and while Mance was always one of the main candidates, I'll admit I didn't see mance's manipulation of Jon, at least not to that extent. VERY INTERESTING STUFF!!!! Mance just moved way up the "I see what you did there" scale and Jon moved way down. Preston's videos are almost as bad as the books, I'm hooked.

Sirken · #**1422** 08-11-2014, 09:27 PM

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I just finished watching Preston's videos... I see why you think Jon Snow is an idiot now Sirken....
How certain are we that Mance wrote the pink letter? It's obvious that it wasn't Ramsay, and while Mance was always one of the main candidates, I'll admit I didn't see mance's manipulation of Jon, at least not to that extent. VERY INTERESTING STUFF!!!! Mance just moved way up the "I see what you did there" scale and Jon moved way down. Preston's videos are almost as bad as the books, I'm hooked.

i was making a play on words because Ygritte always says "you know nothing Jon Snow". but, since we are on the subject, Jon Snow is an idiot for the same reason Ned Stark was an idiot. that stupid stark honor, "im jon snow, im a bastard, i swore an oath, bla bla bla" and then he decides to up and break his oath in front of everyone, and is shocked that it turned into a Julius Caesar moment.

as far as the pink letter, it could be Mance surely. all the mention of wildling stuff supports it. and i cant think of anyone else that could have sent that letter from winterfell (especially when you consider whoever wrote the letter clearly doesnt hold Jon in the highest light, and most of the north would since they believe hes neds bastard son). if i had to bet money today, id bet it was Mance.

although, im not sold on the A+B=J & R+L=D theories

Patriam1066 · #**1423** 08-11-2014, 09:57 PM

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i was making a play on words because Ygritte always says "you know nothing Jon Snow". but, since we are on the subject, Jon Snow is an idiot for the same reason Ned Stark was an idiot. that stupid stark honor, "im jon snow, im a bastard, i swore an oath, bla bla bla" and then he decides to up and break his oath in front of everyone, and is shocked that it turned into a Julius Caesar moment.

as far as the pink letter, it could be Mance surely. all the mention of wildling stuff supports it. and i cant think of anyone else that could have sent that letter from winterfell (especially when you consider whoever wrote the letter clearly doesnt hold Jon in the highest light, and most of the north would since they believe hes neds bastard son). if i had to bet money today, id bet it was Mance.

although, im not sold on the A+B=J & R+L=D theories

I caught the pun, I just missed Jon's stupidity... Mainly because I missed what was going on behind his back. Him announcing his intentions to desert was definitely an act of supreme hubris and idiocy.

I'm not sold on the Jon / Dany parentage theories either, but of all his videos, I found the "Pink Letter" ones to be the most compelling. I thought someone attached to the Night's Watch sent the letter, but it definitely seems like Mance. Good videos and something to think about.

Mandalore93 · #**1424** 08-13-2014, 01:58 AM

Started watching those Preston videos...my hat is on and in the tinfoil position.

Sirken · #**1425** 08-13-2014, 09:06 AM

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Started watching those Preston videos...my hat is on and in the tinfoil position.

I KNOW RIGHT!

other than the Pink Letter (which i do believe Mance sent), those theories are crazy as absolute fuckall. and yet, its strung together so well that there's nothing glaring obvious i can point to in order to discredit the theories.

granted he takes a few leaps of faith here and there, but still there's nothing in my arsenal to disprove his leaps. usually i avoid tinfoil, but god damn if this isn't the tastiest tinfoil ive ever been fed.

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Patriam1066 · #**1426** 08-13-2014, 01:07 PM

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I KNOW RIGHT!

other than the Pink Letter (which i do believe Mance sent), those theories are crazy as absolute fuckall. and yet, its strung together so well that there's nothing glaring obvious i can point to in order to discredit the theories.

granted he takes a few leaps of faith here and there, but still there's nothing in my arsenal to disprove his leaps. usually i avoid tinfoil, but god damn if this isn't the tastiest tinfoil ive ever been fed.

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Yeah....
This guy is definitely a conspiracy theorist. The letter being written by Mance seems likely.
As for R+L=D.... I don't see this matching up with the timeline. It could all be a red herring, but the evidence supports R+L=J (as in these are the most likely candidates to be his parents). The Dornish Master plan, while interesting, goes off the hinges in part 3/4. The Brave Companions and Marwyn could definitely be aligned with the Martells, and the "game with two players" that Varys referred to could indeed be referring to Illyrio and Doran competing to get a Targaryen / dragon to secure the throne. I highly doubt Dorne is trying to promote Arianne as the sole claimant to the IT by replacing the Westerosi legal system with Dornish law... Seems like an awfully convoluted, and more importantly damn near impossible plan, when they could back Aegon / Dany or simply anyone else that would have Dorne partially on the the throne. Seems to me like "The Dornish Master Plan" is to destroy the Lannisters primarily... Any martell that could be placed on the throne is gravy.

I hope Preston is right though, especially about the Horn of Joramun awakening the Children of the Forest. That would be legit.

Sirken · #**1427** 08-14-2014, 10:00 AM

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Yeah....
This guy is definitely a conspiracy theorist. The letter being written by Mance seems likely.
As for R+L=D.... I don't see this matching up with the timeline. It could all be a red herring, but the evidence supports R+L=J (as in these are the most likely candidates to be his parents). The Dornish Master plan, while interesting, goes off the hinges in part 3/4. The Brave Companions and Marwyn could definitely be aligned with the Martells, and the "game with two players" that Varys referred to could indeed be referring to Illyrio and Doran competing to get a Targaryen / dragon to secure the throne. I highly doubt Dorne is trying to promote Arianne as the sole claimant to the IT by replacing the Westerosi legal system with Dornish law... Seems like an awfully convoluted, and more importantly damn near impossible plan, when they could back Aegon / Dany or simply anyone else that would have Dorne partially on the the throne. Seems to me like "The Dornish Master Plan" is to destroy the Lannisters primarily... Any martell that could be placed on the throne is gravy.

I hope Preston is right though, especially about the Horn of Joramun awakening the Children of the Forest. That would be legit.

heres my biggest problem with the dornish master plan videos; the glass candles, at the absolute earliest do not start burning until the end of book 1 (the glass candles stopped working when the dragons died off, we have to assume they only started working again when Dany's dragons were born), and i dont see how Marwyn or Doran for that matter could have known what Dany (or her dumb brother) were up to, especially when they were with Illyrio, as Illyrio and Doran would have supposedly been playing this chess game for nearly 15 years at the start of book 1.

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Sirken · #**1428** 08-15-2014, 10:56 PM

Season 5 Sandsnake info - http://youtu.be/8M4QdRH46Dw

Aenor · #**1429** 08-16-2014, 05:54 AM

I'm just imagining all the nerdgasms when it was announced that Dr. Bashere was playing Doran Martell.

radditsu · #**1430** 08-16-2014, 11:53 AM

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I'm just imagining all the nerdgasms when it was announced that Dr. Bashere was playing Doran Martell.

Oh man. Now I got to watch this show.....

I bet he dies in his second episode thus wasting all my time and giving me heartache.