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[bigjerry]

if Snowden is a traitor so is whoever brought down Flynn

hang em high Don, preferably in large number

[mickmoranis]

In other news, Russia would not have "given up" Crimea no matter who was president right now.

The only difference is we'd be listening to a woman lecture them about it that sounds like this.

[Lune]

I'm sick and tired of this shit.

It's time for the FCC to regulate which entities are allowed to call themselves 'News'. Branding yourself a News organization should require a certain, plainly evident lack of bias in the stories you choose to report and how you report them. Lately I've been comparing how the major online "news" outlets report on major events, and it's disgusting. Fox News either puts a pro-Trump pro-right spin on everything or simply neglects to report facts and events that put the right wing agenda in a negative light. CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC do the same thing but inverted. BBC, PBS, and nightly broadcast news provide the most unbiased factual reporting among major organizations.

Entities that filter and manipulate facts to serve an agenda aren't news organizations, they are editorials, and they shouldn't be able to masquerade as anything else. It's resulting in a terrifying and poisonous division of the country into two alternate realities where your perception of the facts depends on where you stand politically.

The people who adore Trump and watch primarily Fox News are insulated from all the dumb and crooked shit Trump is doing, and the CNN/Huffpo/facebook liberals aren't adequately exposed to the profound failings of Democratic leaders. Trump is right when he says the media is complete garbage, but he's right for the wrong reasons.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

more proof liberals are the new nazis

It's currently illegal to sell cheez-whiz and call it cheddar, and you can't sell pills full of caffeine and call them oxycodone. You shouldn't be allowed to peddle opinion-pieces and narrative journalism, and call it news.

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[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by bigjerry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if Snowden is a traitor so is whoever brought down Flynn

hang em high Don, preferably in large number

GL with that they're planning to impeach or remove as many top cabinet as possible.

How can you hang em high without loyalty in day-to-day government. Clintonistas are currently working overtime at the NSA to control the narrative.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sick and tired of this shit.

It's time for the FCC to regulate which entities are allowed to call themselves 'News'. Branding yourself a News organization should require a certain, plainly evident lack of bias in the stories you choose to report and how you report them. Lately I've been comparing how the major online "news" outlets report on major events, and it's disgusting. Fox News either puts a pro-Trump pro-right spin on everything or simply neglects to report facts and events that put the right wing agenda in a negative light. CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC do the same thing but inverted. BBC, PBS, and nightly broadcast news provide the most unbiased factual reporting among major organizations.

Entities that filter and manipulate facts to serve an agenda aren't news organizations, they are editorials, and they shouldn't be able to masquerade as anything else. It's resulting in a terrifying and poisonous division of the country into two alternate realities where your perception of the facts depends on where you stand politically.

The people who adore Trump and watch primarily Fox News are insulated from all the dumb and crooked shit Trump is doing, and the CNN/Huffpo/facebook liberals aren't adequately exposed to the profound failings of Democratic leaders. Trump is right when he says the media is complete garbage, but he's right for the wrong reasons.

SCOTUS has ready ruled that a news media outlet does not need to present an objective piece of information in order for it to be called news. What we're witnessing is the business model of journalism coming to its end. Journalism has always been at the sway of eyeballs due to advertisement revenue and direct buys from a consumer. The FCC can't infringe on what an organization is selling as news, journalism because that would put a major chip into the first amendment (the actual over-arcing idea behind the next four years) which would funnel more power to the federal government as being the source of our information much like North Korea. Trump's already laying the foundations and we get to watch our republic fall to the sway of demagogues as executive power will ultimately expand in the next two years.

[bigjerry]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GL with that they're planning to impeach or remove as many top cabinet as possible.

How can you hang em high without loyalty in day-to-day government. Clintonistas are currently working overtime at the NSA to control the narrative.

u cant im just obama dreamin

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sick and tired of this shit.

It's time for the FCC to regulate which entities are allowed to call themselves 'News'. Branding yourself a News organization should require a certain, plainly evident lack of bias in the stories you choose to report and how you report them. Lately I've been comparing how the major online "news" outlets report on major events, and it's disgusting. Fox News either puts a pro-Trump pro-right spin on everything or simply neglects to report facts and events that put the right wing agenda in a negative light. CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC do the same thing but inverted. BBC, PBS, and nightly broadcast news provide the most unbiased factual reporting among major organizations.

Entities that filter and manipulate facts to serve an agenda aren't news organizations, they are editorials, and they shouldn't be able to masquerade as anything else. It's resulting in a terrifying and poisonous division of the country into two alternate realities where your perception of the facts depends on where you stand politically.

The people who adore Trump and watch primarily Fox News are insulated from all the dumb and crooked shit Trump is doing, and the CNN/Huffpo/facebook liberals aren't adequately exposed to the profound failings of Democratic leaders.

yea I agree but you can take the news moniker out of bull shit but then it's called meme's and meme's run the country now.

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trump is right when he says the media is complete garbage, but he's right for the wrong reasons.

if the left could get over their panty problems then they could just try to leverage their mutual agreement that something should be and can be done since we both agree... but they wont.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SCOTUS has ready ruled that a news media outlet does not need to present an objective piece of information in order for it to be called news. What we're witnessing is the business model of journalism coming to its end. Journalism has always been at the sway of eyeballs due to advertisement revenue and direct buys from a consumer. The FCC can't infringe on what an organization is selling as news, journalism because that would put a major chip into the first amendment (the actual over-arcing idea behind the next four years) which would funnel more power to the federal government as being the source of our information much like North Korea. Trump's already laying the foundations and we get to watch our republic fall to the sway of demagogues as executive power will ultimately expand in the next two years.

Andrew Jackson was more authoritarian than Trump. So was Lincoln. Both had more power and loyalty of the other portions of the state. Jackson, for instance, had the army and a lot of popular support so he could simply ignore the SCOTUS. Trump is being challenged by the judicial branch. That won't last after he stacks the court, of course, but given his popularity, he might have a hostile or at least heavily divided legislature by 2018.

The people sanguine about the demise of the US are getting ahead of themselves. The people lamenting our decline are right but not in the way they think. Our government is alive and well unfortunately. The federal government is fine. The culture, however, is eroding fast.

"As noted earlier, what had essentially extricated the Roman Empire from the 'crisis' of the mid-third century was the ruthless commitment to the ideology of the empire by members of the Roman army's officer corps. Over the course of the fifth century, by contrast, the Western Empire came increasingly to rely upon outsiders whose loyalty and commitment were not to Rome but rather to their own..."

-Peter Sarris

Y'all see any ruthless commitment lately? I don't even see people who can resist a Big Mac

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Andrew Jackson was more authoritarian than Trump. So was Lincoln. Both had more power and loyalty of the other portions of the state. Jackson, for instance, had the army and a lot of popular support so he could simply ignore the SCOTUS. Trump is being challenged by the judicial branch. That won't last after he stacks the court, of course, but given his popularity, he might have a hostile or at least heavily divided legislature by 2018.

The people sanguine about the demise of the US are getting ahead of themselves. The people lamenting our decline are right but not in the way they think. Our government is alive and well unfortunately. The federal government is fine. The culture, however, is eroding fast.

"As noted earlier, what had essentially extricated the Roman Empire from the 'crisis' of the mid-third century was the ruthless commitment to the ideology of the empire by members of the Roman army's officer corps. Over the course of the fifth century, by contrast, the Western Empire came increasingly to rely upon outsiders whose loyalty and commitment were not to Rome but rather to their own..."

-Peter Sarris

Y'all see any ruthless commitment lately? I don't even see people who can resist a Big Mac

Agreed about the culture. How many people have made the connection that Lady Gaga's lyrics are embodied by President Trump? Personally, I enjoy watching all of this unfold.