NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Rager and Quitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Elective abortion, especially late term is among the most brutish, abhorrent part of a civilized society, and I wish those that engage in it the most exquisite form of anguish and pain.

That being said, I support the freedom and right of women to choose abortion, but I find those that do it for a non-medical necessity to be the lowest scum of our modern society.

Don’t like the gender or stats or timing just re-roll

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Slow down Speedy McSpeedface!

"I believe because I have experienced it."

What? What did you experience? An experience is some kind of reportable event, like say I describe my "experience of being thirsty."

You say you believe because you experience it. Naturally you have to say this, because observe, experience always has some kind of object.

Proof. Go up to someone on the street. Say, "I'm having an experience!" If you are still gtg, they will ask "An experience of what?" If you say, "What do you mean? Just experience, experience doesn't have to be about anything," you will get the cold shoulder.

So, what is it?

The Will of God

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Will of God

You maybe mistaking a coping method for a wake up call.

Without addressing the issue with direct psychological help leaves room for relapse.

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You maybe mistaking a coping method for a wake up call.

Without addressing the issue with direct psychological help leaves room for relapse.

Science cannot answer all the questions of the Universe.

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You maybe mistaking a coping method for a wake up call.

Without addressing the issue with direct psychological help leaves room for relapse.

But for real, the experience I've had is hard to explain. A feeling of "flow" being in tune with the Universe. Being where I belong, doing what I should be. You've never felt this? The feeling that "all is right".

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not a stupid argument though. If we're so concerned about the well being of an unborn child that we want to ban abortion, then we should follow through with appropriate social measures/funding to ensure that child can have the best life it possibly can. It rings false and disingenuous when we want to wash our hands of any responsibility to help the children once they're actually born, and it basically just makes the whole sanctity of life argument not a good faith argument.

As for the 6 week bills, they were drafted that way because it would be much easier to challenge an outright 100% ban on abortion in the courts. Things like irregular periods, etc. can make someone totally unaware they are pregnant at 6 weeks and therefore in practice you essentially have an outright ban on abortion without actually having to legislate a complete ban. I will give them credit, it's definitely a smart legal strategy. I'm also not sure how you haven't heard of them...like nearly a third of the states in the US have enacted them over the past few years.

What really gets me is the people who also want to ban any sort of contraceptives or birth control...like okay let's put out there that there's a hypothetical ban on abortion because all the people like you are like "well, don't fuck around and get pregnant accidentally and then want to kill your baby"....but then those same people also want to make it impossible to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place. The illogic.

I'm sorry but it is a complete non-sequitur to say that since not every child is born into ideal circumstances they should instead be killed, which is essentially what you're saying.

Show me your plan to improve the lives of children born into poverty, cause I'll probably agree with it. But I won't agree that if we can't enact that plan we should kill the kids out of some sense of mercy, because that's insane.

I completely agree with you that bans on contraception are idiotic btw. I'm not a religious person and I think people should be able to bang as much as they like. But they should also understand that pregnancy is always a possibility, and abortion is not birth control.

[Origen]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But for real, the experience I've had is hard to explain. A feeling of "flow" being in tune with the Universe. Being where I belong, doing what I should be. You've never felt this? The feeling that "all is right".

That moment when a forums user admits to being a Sith Lord

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That moment when a forums user admits to being a Sith Lord

speaking of which, hows the new job?

[Trexller]

it doesn't matter how badly we fuck the world up, it's already over

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, that's not really what communism is but okay lol

I thought fire departments were Communism?