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Old 06-15-2010, 03:19 PM
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IB actually started doing this first

Shhhh...they aren't a zerg guild though, even though they bind rush Vox
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:03 PM
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way off topic but since yall raiders are viewing this tread, has the necro pet focus book droped off inny yet?
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:08 PM
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:57 PM
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Oh man I was just discussing that today. Get out of my head!
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:08 PM
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Regardless of who started it, it needs to change. We are all losing friends to burn out and Im about done myself. Between the drama inside the guild and with IB; its enough to gouge my eyes out.

The problem that exists between the two guilds (IB / DA) concerning a rotation is that they are currently the only ones killing raid targets. (This is not including the most recent kill given to a third guild due to GM intervention between IB and DA over a dispute.) This is not to say that the two guilds are the only skilled guilds on the server. The current raid targets are by far easy enough for any guild that can muster 20 people to the target. Vox at least presents a challenge with the recent proper implementation of her CH.

The real challenge is getting those guild mates to leave their accounts on for days on end and be ready to be on call from the "bat phone" so they can meet role call / mob spawn. No other guilds are doing this besides DA and IB. This is why a majority of people in these two guilds are having such a discrepancy with including any other guild into a rotation. There are a few of us, that want to have some type of competition included within it so that other guilds at least have a shot at these mobs. But getting these two guilds to agree to go on a rotation where they will get a kill on Vox once every month isnt going to pass any big vote.

Everyone is looking to sky as the next big savior, but if its similar to the way its been described in rants and flames; then only those two guilds are going to be able to do it. Even then, its a doubt that even they can clear it. So I personally, am not expecting sky to be a miracle fix to this situation.

Free for all eventually works itself out and only presents a problem when a new guild comes about. It was done on Fennin Ro; I know because I was raiding then and there and it worked. Those that decide to be morally wrong and train would have to be banned on sight. Everyone would be running fraps just to prove who trained who. This would require a lot of work from guides that just arent getting paid for this. Dont expect this to happen. Without throwing words like care bear, WoW kiddie, casual player, etc. around there is just a small majority of people that wont agree to a free for all system because it doesnt suit them, or their schedule.

There is no easy fix to this situation, and someone will always be unhappy with whatever is decided. Auto-logging out or auto-afk'ing needs to be implemented and that will fix the first problem. Secondly; having a simulated server restart would give everyone a shot at getting a mob at some point. These two implementations would at least alleviate the current situation. Relief is all we need right? A shipment of MRE's with skittles sent to the front lines.

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Old 06-15-2010, 04:45 PM
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:08 PM
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Quick newbie Q on this issue - when we are talking about camping Vox/Fear/etc... are all mobs in zone on same timer such that entire zone is camped or do the non-boss mobs respawn faster?

Put another way, are there pickup raids for the non-boss content because it respawns faster? Could a group head into one of these zones and kill some of the other stuff just to get a chance to see the content?

Also, do guilds allow others to join in fun if they don't roll on stuff and just want to tag along for the fun of the raid?


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Old 06-15-2010, 05:10 PM
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you can kill trash in the planes whenever you want far as i know, the trash drops the armor.

trash repops on 8hour timer i think? or 12?
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:53 PM
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1) Auto-logout is a nice idea after a certain time AFK (20-30 minutes?). This would make it so people can't AFK to keep the required 15 in zone to call raid targets. It would also have a side benefit of people not being able to AFK camp named mobs (fishbone earring *cough*)

2) Simulated patch days once a week for an all-pop would be VERY nice solution. This would make it so guilds would know exactly when to expect pops and they can race to the spawn points. This does, unfortunately, benefit large guilds who can go after multiple targets at once and will likely cause problem with multiple guilds camping out at certain spawn points.

3) Rotation system will not work, the 24-hour a day no-jobers won't agree. They need their EQ fix.


I think the real problem is lack of content in general.
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:28 PM
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1) Auto-logout is a nice idea after a certain time AFK (20-30 minutes?). This would make it so people can't AFK to keep the required 15 in zone to call raid targets. It would also have a side benefit of people not being able to AFK camp named mobs (fishbone earring *cough*)
Yeah. No. If I am camping a mob that has a 22 minute timer, I will not be tabbed in for 21 of those 22 minutes. Gonna have to be way longer than standard repop times there, broski.
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