After Velious

[Shyguy McFly]

DAOC.

[BrentClagg]

Classic Everquest has a unique feel that I love. I have to agree that after Velious it started to go down hill. Some things I liked and others I did not.

Like
*Beastlord, Beserker - I think adding the two classes made more diversity without hurting gameplay.

*AA's - Alternate Advancement is a great way to advance your character, but felt like a forced grind at times. (Suggestion below in Additional)

*Added Content - Having more content and bosses to clear is a plus. Some of it was good and some of it was not.

Dislike
*Races - Not a big fan of most of the new races. Classics were fine with me.

*Bazaar - East Commons and North Freeport trading always seemed more fun. The bazaar killed that.

*Difficulty - Maybe it was because I was learning more and getting older, but it seems the game got much much easier with every expansion.

*Recommended/Required Levels - I understand the reason, I just wasn't a big fan of it.

Additional
*AA's - Filter out most of the AA's, as there are way too many. Also make them more of a choice by making some AA's prohibit others or something similar.

*PVP - PvP servers were not that fun because of the chaos everywhere you went, but Best of the Best and duels always interested me a lot. Perhaps if its possible turn flag certain zones for pvp or have pvp battle areas. Any stat tracking, or PvP only Gear/AA's would be amazing.

[Edgetiq]

No LUCLIN! it ruined EQ. It also ruined PvP on SZ *sadface* fucking Evils! levelling on the moon cowards!

Stick to Velious and then you could probably add a PvP zone? and let people fuck each other up in there. 60s only maybe just use Arena but have portals to Arena in all home cities

[Cribanox]

I would like to see some instanced classic-like dungeons, maybe thats just me. I doubt we'd ever see that here though, I'm thinking it probably takes some serious hardware to run that for 1000 people.

[XDrake]

Personally I think Velious was sort of the lore 'end game' for Norrath. The Sleeper awakens and begins the events of EQ II.

I remember reading the press release for Luclin and shaking my head... The more you add to EQ the more empty the world becomes.

I'd hate to see Oasis and EC empty again...

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by XDrake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally I think Velious was sort of the lore 'end game' for Norrath. The Sleeper awakens and begins the events of EQ II.

Can't remember if I posted this already in this topic since it's old as hell.

But, a PoP-like expansion was supposed to follow Velious, lots of planes, lots of god killing, no PoK.

[Itchybottom]

I agree with the not rushing things idea. Years ago when Ylosh was the core database worker (along with mystic414 and a few other key players) on ProjectEQ, the original design idea was to not implement a new expansion, or newer mobs until the old zones were completely done and bug free. Somewhere down the road, ProjectEQ lost scope of that (I think around the end of Velious, and beginning of Luclin) due to the changes associated with the old zones for the new quest content. It would actually be fantastic if the server didn't even move to Kunark until we've exhausted the Internet of information regarding classic spawn mechanics and quests. That's what lost me personally as a player to the server, precedence taken on new zones over fixing the original spawns.

[Evilmog]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't remember if I posted this already in this topic since it's old as hell.

But, a PoP-like expansion was supposed to follow Velious, lots of planes, lots of god killing, no PoK.

Seeing how PoP was the expansion I got into raiding, Maybe a bit bias, but I rather enjoyed the flagging system for the expansion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then of course SOE just let any joe blow into BoT and the whole fricking place is full with people rocking Fungi's...W T F!!!!

Either way, screw Luclin, give us BSTs and goto PoP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't remember if I posted this already in this topic since it's old as hell.

But, a PoP-like expansion was supposed to follow Velious, lots of planes, lots of god killing, no PoK.

Yeah, there was a thread about this a while back. Basically it was an idea on how to add all the PoP planes to the old world zones, leaving out PoK and PoT completely:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...t=planes+power

People added some pretty good ideas to the original one I wrote up.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The dream expansion thread made me think of this:

So this is all completely hypothetical of course.
I just wanted to see if I could place all the Planes of Power zones (besides Knowledge and Tranquility) in to the original trilogy in a way that would make sense.

This is what I came up with for zone connections:



on the fence:
Plane of Knowledge: would not be in the game unless it was somewhere real f'ing hard to get to like through the Tower of Frozen Shadow Mirror.
I think if it just had a single zone in zone out like that and no portals/books to anywhere else then it would be okay.
(In my original draft PoK wasn't even listed... I just added the idea based on posts below)

For the zones that are located in cities: The location of the zone in would always be the corresponding race's Cleric or Shaman guild hall. (Possibly an alter of some sort or what have you.)

This adds a little bit of challenge because obviously you will have members of the raid party that would be KoS in these cities which would further add to the importance of factions in the game. (Alternately you could just invis through the zone every time.)
Also, this creates new life for old cities.

Note that while Kunark and velious zones will be all the rage for the next couple of years, thereby lowering the classic zone populations, the introduction of this version of PoP will reignite the need for travel in the old world zones. There will be multiple options open for low level players and no matter where they go there will be some high level players hanging around as well. This is something that we never see in EQ now, except in PoK on live (or EC tunnel in the case of this server.) Instead of creating one main hub , many cities will have people in them and therefor resons for low an dhigh level players alike to revisit.

I would go as far as to say that most of the things that were added to PoK should be added to the old world cities (and Cabalis) instead.
(Druid and Wizard ports will never be useless in my vision! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

For the Planes that are located within the older planes (Fear, Hate, Sky, Growth) zoning in to the next zone would be a one way ticket. This makes it not possible to use this zone line as an easy way to clear agro and jump right back in. Also the zone line to the second Plane would be somewhat deep in the zone, requiring you to clear your way to torment from Hate (unless the zone was already cleared). Whether or not you need to have killed Inny to be flagged for Torment remains in question (I could care less either way).

I’m on the fence about where to put Plane of Time so I just figured The Sleepers Tomb being the end game in Velious would be appropriate. ( EDIT: Someone suggested leaving out PoT all together... not a horrible idea. )

Level cap increased to 65 with PoP
AA's (if implemented) are capped per level and you can never get them all. You have to specialize.
Respecialization is an option via a semi-complex quest.
Minimum level requirement (if the zone is even implemented) to enter PoK (somewhere between 46 and 60).

Feel free to add your own opinions and ideas.
(Can you tell I’m bored at work?)


EDIT: Thanks for all that added ideas. I still prefer the use of starting city shaman and cleric guilds for the portals that lead to major deities but there is definitely something to be said for keeping raids from having to zone through a town. So I added both

[Arillious]

There has to be some kind of progression in PVE to keep people around. Adding at least some form of pvp to the blue server would make things interesting as well.