A Concerned Citizen Writes...

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play maybe 3-4 hours a week and keep about 35-40% attendance.

WHOA WATCH OUT EVERYONE, WE GOT A BADASS MOFO UP IN HERE

[baub]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The merge despite of not fantastical quickstart worked , few people quit or went to TR for easy loot (i loved u baub).

lol you little nig, I stuck it out with TMO for that extra month or two just so I wouldn't give this impression. You do realize when I left we had just gotten the last 4 or 5 Trakanon's in a row and were stream rolling some shit right?

[Autotune]

confirmed EQmac boring as shit, have to come to p99 forums to have fun.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Mystro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the new recruit that joined tmo for there loot rots... Maybe if you were with them from day 1 your responses would be reconigized, until then, shut your mouth and stop talking like you earn loot.

I don't even know why I'm replying to your troll, but:

1. My time with TMO is not relevant to my discussion of the "time is all it takes to get raid kills" argument that people throw around on these forums all too often.

2. If I had joined TMO just because I wanted loot, I probably would have sold my account the second I got my epic and then twinked out another character with the proceeds.

3. I actually joined TMO because it was the best place to accomplish my 3 p99 goals (make level 60, see all the raid content I missed on live, get my epic) and because I got to know Kelendil and he suggested I should apply.

4. I entertain no delusions of granduer of my position in TMO, I just try to level when I can, track when I can, and attend raids when I can, and the loot council decides whether I'm deserving of loots, rot or otherwise.

[baub]

al'kabor forums are pretty dull~

so is p99 lately though

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

confirmed EQmac boring as shit, have to come to p99 forums to have fun.

you're right (first time for everything) eqmac forums are pretty dry - the server itself is amazing.

plus these forums are already completely screwed up and I'm bored at work

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What amuses me is that people are always all over these forums saying that the reason they don't raid is because they aren't willing to put in the TIME. No one ever says that they lack the leadership skills or the knowledge of the game or the motivation to organize, manage, and mobilize a guild.

And yet these same people who insist that it is the time barrier keeping them from raiding have not yet seized upon the allegedly simple task of forming and operating and mobilizing and managing a megaguild that could crush TMO beneath its feet.


Why haven't you crushed TMO yet, all you casuals? If you formed a 200-person megaguild you'd easily be able to log enough hours amongst yourselves to beat TMO, but without any one of you having to spend massive amounts of time ingame to accomplish this. Right? Cause all it would take to chase TMO off is time, right?!

I like how you essentialize all casual players as being unskilled and disorganized, despite the fact that you had no problem asking a certain player from a casual guild for Bard advice as you were leveling. Your argument is really silly too because expecting all casual guilds to merge just to beat TMO is completely unreasonable. Maybe we don't want to merge. Maybe we like keeping our identity as a guild. Maybe "crushing the competition" isn't our one single goal on p99. And anyways this is all irrelevant because the level of commitment this server expects was not required in classic. There's a reason casual guilds on Live did much better than they do here, and I'm sure it's not because all the casual guilds on p99 are somehow inferior.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how you essentialize all casual players as being unskilled and disorganized, despite the fact that you had no problem asking a certain player from a casual guild for Bard advice as you were leveling. Your argument is really silly too because expecting all casual guilds to merge just to beat TMO is completely unreasonable. Maybe we don't want to merge. Maybe we like keeping our identity as a guild. Maybe "crushing the competition" isn't our one single goal on p99. And anyways this is all irrelevant because the level of commitment this server expects was not required in classic. There's a reason casual guilds on Live did much better than they do here, and I'm sure it's not because all the casual guilds on p99 are somehow inferior.

I'm afraid that I don't know where or when I said any of the things you are attributing to me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only argument I am making is that it takes much more than time to compete for raid kills on this server, and in the post you quoted I tried to demonstrate the truth of that by showing how ludicrous it would be to expect a megaguild to beat TMO to kills simply because that megaguild would log more playtime overall than TMO does.

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by baub [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol you little nig, I stuck it out with TMO for that extra month or two just so I wouldn't give this impression. You do realize when I left we had just gotten the last 4 or 5 Trakanon's in a row and were stream rolling some shit right?

false, you left when we lost about 4 traks in a row not when we were steamrolling. nice try though.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm afraid that I don't know where or when I said any of the things you are attributing to me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only argument I am making is that it takes much more than time to compete for raid kills on this server, and in the post you quoted I tried to demonstrate the truth of that by showing how ludicrous it would be to expect a megaguild to beat TMO to kills simply because that megaguild would log more playtime overall than TMO does.

Then I guess I misinterpreted your post? It seemed like you were implying the opposite (that time investment isn't what causes certain guilds to monopolize raid mobs, but that the casuals are just disorganized/unskilled/unknowledgeable).