Trakanon Rotation

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FWIW, I agree this was a dick move by Bisch and I spent a lot of time on the VD forums arguing for him not to do it.

But again, where were all these invitations to go play in VP with no trains and FTE a week ago? We did to go VP, and despite being raid banned with no possibility of killing the dragons yourself, you trained the hell out of us. And you enjoyed doing it too: our members got all sorts of tells about how you guys were gonna have fun corpse camping us off the server.

well you have to remember you guys created this issue when you made a trak rotation that was clearly unfair. IB/VD raided together on every mob yet when it came to trakanon you wanted 1 TMO 2 IB/VD, and you were trying to do the same thing in VP. Had you guys Merged back then and just admited to being one guild negotiations could have been taken seriously. The fact that VD was not banned with IB was already a crime of its own. Then when IB/VD's lower class decided to enter VP it seemed you were twisting words and rules to take our dragons. Personaly you should have ate the ban with IB, you raid the target together but dont share in its consequences? explain..

[quido]

Originally Posted by CallnOutTheNubs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call utter bullshit on this i recall a thread were san even called you out for training his guild you fucking idoit

98% of my problem with BDA disappeared with Wampy.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where have they been by the way? Did they leave the game when you were suspended for 3rd party programs Yendor? Again the hypocrisy is just fucking staggering. Bang up job keeping that secret too.

Now, see, Loly... this is why everyone on the server hates TMO. There you go again with your manipulative lying and distortion of the facts in order to try to spin others in a negative light to re-direct attention away from your guild shitting up the server.

Time to see how much faith you place in the info that your mole in our forums passes you.

If a GM/Dev can confirm I have ever been suspended or banned in my P99 history, I will delete my character and never post on the P99 forums again. However, if they confirm that I have never been suspended or banned, then you delete your character and never post on these forums again.

Willing to take that bet, good sir?

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by CallnOutTheNubs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call utter bullshit on this i recall a thread were san even called you out for training his guild you fucking idoit

anything jeremy says = i picture a steamin pile of shit

i know your on a troll account and dont care, but you do understand this isnt RNF right?

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now, see, Loly... this is why everyone on the server hates TMO. There you go again with your manipulative lying and distortion of the facts in order to try to spin others in a negative light to re-direct attention away from your guild shitting up the server.

Time to see how much faith you place in the info that your mole in our forums passes you.

If a GM/Dev can confirm I have ever been suspended or banned in my P99 history, I will delete my character and never post on the P99 forums again. However, if they confirm that I have never been suspended or banned, then you delete your character and never post on these forums again.

Willing to take that bet, good sir?

It's your guild shitting up the server, and you'll leave p99 without me having to take your bet- trust me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well you have to remember you guys created this issue when you made a trak rotation that was clearly unfair. IB/VD raided together on every mob yet when it came to trakanon you wanted 1 TMO 2 IB/VD, and you were trying to do the same thing in VP. Had you guys Merged back then and just admited to being one guild negotiations could have been taken seriously. The fact that VD was not banned with IB was already a crime of its own. Then when IB/VD's lower class decided to enter VP it seemed you were twisting words and rules to take our dragons. Personaly you should have ate the ban with IB, you raid the target together but dont share in its consequences? explain..

Wait, so in your mind VD are assholes for not voluntarily refusing to kill raid mobs despite not being raid suspended? And it never occurred to you that IB got suspended because Perun ninjalooted an epic item, while VD did not get suspended because none of our members ninja looted an epic piece?

Simply put as an actual member of VD I can tell you that IB/VD were never one guild the way you guys are making it out to be. We worked together when we needed each other, did not when we did not, made some friends and had fun but there was definitely some friction too.

[Alkorin]

I give up. You guys are so bound and determined to drag yourselves through the mud from now until kingdom come... so be it.

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so in your mind VD are assholes for not voluntarily refusing to kill raid mobs despite not being raid suspended? And it never occurred to you that IB got suspended because Perun ninjalooted an epic item, while VD did not get suspended because none of our members ninja looted an epic piece?

Simply put as an actual member of VD I can tell you that IB/VD were never one guild the way you guys are making it out to be. We worked together when we needed each other, did not when we did not, made some friends and had fun but there was definitely some friction too.

So if your guild has nothing to do with Perun's bullshit why does he help you out in VP?

That's because you're working together, and in the real world we call this conspiracy. Generally speaking, if ninjalooting was a real-world offense and you were working with the person that did it- you would be involved in the conspiracy and would be just as culpable.

This isn't the real world obviously but I think you guys lack a general understanding of the responsibility you take on when you work with someone else. Just because you weren't appropriately punished for being a part of the whole scenario doesn't make you innocent.

[Visual]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally love camping @ Trak ledge and doing 3 minute engages. See ya there.

Also, once Mem blur is fixed, whatcha gonna do?

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so in your mind VD are assholes for not voluntarily refusing to kill raid mobs despite not being raid suspended? And it never occurred to you that IB got suspended because Perun ninjalooted an epic item, while VD did not get suspended because none of our members ninja looted an epic piece?

Simply put as an actual member of VD I can tell you that IB/VD were never one guild the way you guys are making it out to be. We worked together when we needed each other, did not when we did not, made some friends and had fun but there was definitely some friction too.

Spin it however you want you were 1 guild, and you were doing anything to gain an advantage over us, you wanted rotation on trakanon yet alone VD/IB couldnt compete with us. And yes you were raiding together as one, so if someone trained us from IB, ninja looted, KS'd you all should be banned, there is no doubt in my mind that you got away due to technicality. thats like TMO making 3 guild tags and asking to be in a rotation with VD. next trak rotation TMO1, TMO2, TMO3, Vd, TMO4, deal? Oh and they can each individualy train you, ks you, grief you and nothing happens to the rotation with the others. im sure you would be ok with that