Vesica Dei: Cant Kill a VP Dragon? Constantly Ruin other guilds attempts

[Mantel]

Originally Posted by Xatava [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How convenient that you should choose to not say his name. I'm sure everyone agrees that your word can be trusted.

If u want me to out a member of your guild u got it.. Crazyeyes was banned

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Minyin confirmed mad we destroyed his guild. TMO will never back down and we won't negotiate with terrorists, so fuck off EQmac is that way >>

Mad? No fountree, mad is getting rolled in vp for 6hours a night, for a week.
Then having an officer run to RnF to post an amazingly lulzy thread about how your guild is butthurt because you seemingly cant do anything about it. That's mad. Props for getting my name right btw, u must have been one rung higher than Loly on the ladder, close enough to catch my name up there at the top. That puts u on rung 2, grats bro! Oh, sry your app to IB didn't work out btw, don't take it personally though, I mean, even w/o a guild Im still the best geared druid on the server, you never really had a chance to begin w/

Have fun in VP(or lack thereof) and have fun w/ variance(lol). Ill be raiding Velious=D

Past MMO Experience - Diablo 2 <--- this was my favorite part of your app, quite a few lols were had over this.

[Nagach]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO agreement = we get everything.

OR

We share for a little while then stab you in the back.

Can't blame em. What's to negotiate? Your terms are pretty clear, you don't want to share anything.

Thing is there is nothing to be negotiated, Hoshkar and druushk are still up, and TMO failed to kill them so far.

It's all about e-pride [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kassel]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I find most disappointing is that with the recent political changes, I really hoped that we’d have a chance to reform how we treated each other here. It looks like we’ll just be continuing the same drudgery of annoyance, hate, and belligerence towards each other.

I’m looking at both sides here. Are we really so full of venom that we get off on making someone’s life difficult? Competition is fun, very fun even. But, what amazes me is when I see people saying that they did something for no other reason than to frustrate or harm another person.

In real life, I think the DSM IV calls that being a sociopath.

I’m disappointed in how VP is going. To my knowledge, VD did not approach TMO in a serious diplomatic fashion to discuss VP. To my knowledge, TMO didn’t approach VD either. We could mince words all day on who had the duty to start the discussions, but at the end of it, this is a failing on both our parts. We knew conflict was possible, and I’m disappointed that both sides have not handled it in a more grown up fashion.

I don’t blame either guild one bit for zealously defending its interests. I expect VD to do everything it can to win a spot in VP. I further expect TMO to do what it can to get as many mobs before it has to share anything. This is fine. If nothing else, TMO has shown that it is willing to negotiate with rivals if the situation calls for it. I really hope VD is willing to do the same in good faith.

I really don’t think memblurring dragons is going to get VD where it wants to go in the way they hope it will. And, I don’t believe that trolling and ranting on forums will get TMO where it wants to go.

It is human nature to defy a challenger. Every night I see TMO members resolving to kill these dragons despite rival guilds blurring them. I’m sure VD feels similarly pumped by any oppression they feel TMO has wrought. The end result of all these shenanigans is that we end up at the bottom. It’ll be difficult for people to even talk to each other all because of how much hatred each guild bears to the other. This road only leads down.

I suspect this will fall upon deaf ears, but surely there is a better way to work this out. If we could, more or less, hold to an agreement this would all go away. I’ll go so far as to suggest to VD that if they begin killing VP dragons TMO will come to the table. The key is working here in good faith. Even training each other wouldn’t be so bad. That can dealt with, but to interfere with our raids when you are not yet competing leaves a very bad taste in TMOs mouth. We should have a cordial relationship when it is time for us to have a relationship.

I’m disappointed that both sides have resorted to throwing around insults, pictures, and empty threats. Surely we can have enough respect for each other, as human beings if nothing else, to work out a sustainable and appropriate competitive scene.

We can sit here all day throwing out blame, castigations, and insults, but that won't get us anywhere. How about we sit down an deal with each other. We don't have to like each other, but we do have live in the same world.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Thank you for your post, i agree with 99% of what you have posted. This will only end badly for both guilds. We need to usher in a ear of new cooperation not a new era of pain and anger. Players on both sides are really worked up due to their perceptions of being wronged. We need to leave that all in the past and create a framework of civility not only for VD and TMO but for all guilds on this server. I don't know if you are an officer or just a member who wants something better, regardless your rational words ring true and I invite you and yours to open communication with a focus on resolution.

I am open to talks anytime, with anyone who is interested in a better p1999, regardless of guildtag.


PM me or hit me in game, these days i am often on my necro Frayed.

[Amelinda]

p99 RNF = better made up bs than the national enquirer~

[Mantel]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't deny that there are flukes and that sometimes we fail miserably. Over an extended period of time, though, our success is and will continue to be undeniable. Minten/Slapen/whichever retard you are, I invite you to keep a running tally of wins versus losses, since you think you are informed on the relative skill levels of raiding guilds on p99 these days. Slapen I personally think you have the verbal skills of an eight-year-old and don't have the capacity to present a credible opinion.

Wow jeremy we use to be bros! You really took it up the ass when i didnt give your guild ANOTHER bcg eh.. btw in on my droid typing fast because unlike you i work and dont claim unemployment.

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p99 RNF = better made up bs than the national enquirer~

Everything you read in the national enquirer is true Ame, how dare you slander their thorough research and integrity!

[Uthagain]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p99 RNF = better made up bs than the national enquirer~

For real. Especially the part about 2boxing not being permabans anymore. You should probably change this post to reflect Rogean's edict. My apologies in advance for the deluge of appeals on the way.

[Maze513]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There has been precedent in the past about things that shouldn't be happening in game, but people were allowed to do, and some they weren't allowed to do .,.

[Fountree]

So how do you guys feel about a Diablo 2 player beating u then? I feel for you bro.

I did play EQ for 6 years after that as well. But that's not what you wanna hear.