Name Change is in Order

[pickled_heretic]

Multiple choice question:

When you hear "United States Holocaust Museum" do you think of

1. a museum devoted to the history of religious sacrifices.

2. a museum dedicated to to the history of genocides.

3. a museum dedicated specifically toward the genocide of the Jewish race that occurred in the period of time around and before WW2.

4. language is subjective durr hurrr

[pickled_heretic]

When someone describes themselves as a "holocaust survivor" do you ask them which holocaust they survived?

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When someone describes themselves as a "holocaust survivor" do you ask them which holocaust they survived?

If they lived during 1914 I would. Or more recently - if they were Rwandan, I certainly would ask them.

That's my point. Let's say another WW2 style holocaust occured. Which would be properly referred to when using the word?

There have been many holocausts throughout history. It's all about context and usage...and we're back to a circular argument.

The guild on P99 wasn't insulting Jews. They were naming a guild to reflect that they would be a force of pure destruction on Red99. (Likely untrue, but another argument).

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they lived during 1914 I would. Or more recently - if they were Rwandan, I certainly would ask them.

That's my point. Let's say another WW2 style holocaust occured. Which would be properly referred to when using the word?

There have been many holocausts throughout history. It's all about context and usage...and we're back to a circular argument.

The guild on P99 wasn't insulting Jews. They were naming a guild to reflect that they would be a force of pure destruction on Red99. (Likely untrue, but another argument).

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[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's say another WW2 style holocaust occured. Which would be properly referred to when using the word?

The compound word genocide didn't even exist before WW2. Sure the Latin prefix and suffix existed, but never in that combination. Your argument is completely invalidated by this fact alone.

[Humerox]

We're talking about the word "holocaust".

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[pickled_heretic]

I guess you'd only know for sure if they called themselves "The Holocaust survivor." Right?

[Samoht]

Welcome to linguistics.

[Samoht]

And I'm saying that an entirely new term can be developed because this is the course of language.

Just like an entirely new term refers to other genocides, the term Holocaust references the mass-murder of Jews in Europe in the 1940's.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I'm saying that an entirely new term can be developed because this is the course of language.

Just like an entirely new term refers to other genocides, the term Holocaust references the mass-murder of Jews in Europe in the 1940's.

Neoligisms...yeah I get it.

They way you used it does.

The way Holocaust used it on R99 does not.