Classic pet exp - Page 14

pickled_heretic · #**131** 10-24-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by casdegere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That bug is well known but I gather that changing it creates either another issue or a game imbalance.

i'm sorry, what? we're talking about Classic (TM). the whole game of everquest was just one big game imbalance. it's either classic or it isn't.

casdegere · #**132** 10-24-2011, 02:38 PM

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i'm sorry, what? we're talking about Classic (TM). the whole game of everquest was just one big game imbalance. it's either classic or it isn't.

Well I admit I do not know the facts of this but do you? I do not know their reasoning behind their actions most of the time. I just logon to play dude. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pickled_heretic · #**133** 10-24-2011, 02:45 PM

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Well I admit I do not know the facts of this but do you? I do not know their reasoning behind their actions most of the time. I just logon to play dude. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in spite of posting evidence to the contrary, we were told that pet delays would never be lowered. no reason was ever provided, we were just told to stop whining, as per this post:

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I don't care how much anyone whines. Pet delays will not be lowered, if the weapon has a lower delay. But enough about that.

oh wait, a reason WAS provided. Pets were "overpowered."

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Why haven't I fixed it? Pets are way overpowered already.

Clear it up for ya?

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were pets overpowered in classic? you're damn right they were. that's Classic. i hope nobody ever uses the "classic" argument again here.

Sithel1988 · #**134** 10-24-2011, 02:49 PM

so we must do 51% more dmg than our pet to get xp? then why did they add the feature that lets pet do more dmg with the right weapon applied? i guess pet classes are only good for groups now.

MrSparkle001 · #**135** 10-24-2011, 03:29 PM

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so we must do 51% more dmg than our pet to get xp? then why did they add the feature that lets pet do more dmg with the right weapon applied? i guess pet classes are only good for groups now.

There's speculation that it's because of the PvP server. I don't know how true it is, but either way this was too soon, with aggro and pet delay still not fixed.

Peatree · #**136** 10-24-2011, 03:53 PM

I like how people bitch and complain about how things are not how they want things to be, especially in a game that is developed and provided by people at no cost. Just saying.

Hey devs, do what you want. I'm grateful that I get to play the game for free.

pickled_heretic · #**137** 10-24-2011, 03:56 PM

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I like how people bitch and complain about how things are not how they want things to be, especially in a game that is developed and provided by people at no cost. Just saying.

Hey devs, do what you want. I'm grateful that I get to play the game for free.

um, the game is free because it's literally against the law for them to charge for it.

don't misunderstand me. it's really great that they are putting time into this server and making it available to the public. but no amount of giving me free shit is going to make me ignore the cognitive dissonance that is taking place.

Peatree · #**138** 10-24-2011, 04:03 PM

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um, the game is free because it's literally against the law for them to charge for it.

don't misunderstand me. it's really great that they are putting time into this server and making it available to the public. but no amount of giving me free shit is going to make me ignore the cognitive dissonance that is taking place.

How's the bringing up cognitive dissonance working for you so far? If it is too much of an issue then why not spend the time/effort to create your own server, develop the game, etc....so then you can play the game the way you like it? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilist_santa · #**139** 10-24-2011, 04:25 PM

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I feel no sympathy for a person that perpetuates a discrimination that he has been on the other side of.

You are a moron. It is not perpetuated discrimination . Its not like i am adhering to some unfounded stereotype. It is a FACT that hybrids have xp penalties and the group suffers for it. I know this because my main on live was a troll SK. I am not trying to be a hypocrite ffs I am trying to avoid the pitfalls that I encountered on live when i originally played this game. I think most of us are. The people who are here saying how great groups are with hybrids probably didn't even start playing til the penalty was removed. Revisionist history abounds here.

The reason I am upset is because this so called "classic" experience is anything but unless you consider lack of classes and content classic because that is about all you get. I am however grateful for the chance to play I just always thought the whole "nerf" concept was stupid. Its based on someone else s interpretation of how a class should be played. Well if it is truly classic there should not be that much to interpret. We all know the patch history and nerfs we know what classes were capable of and what they were not. We know which BAD decisions were made by the devs and we know what they did to fix it.

If these changes are due to Red99 then again that is not classic. If anything pvp was so horribly unbalanced and broken in classic because they did not choose to balance the game around pvp encounters. This is a pve game with pvp tacked on as an afterthought.

If I am mistaken about anything I will humbly concede but honestly I think people suffer from selective memory here. And although I am complaining it is only because I thoroughly have been enjoying myself on this server however my enjoyment is lessened on a regular basis...

The people that suffer most from this are the late comers. The ones who didn't plan their path ahead of time to take advantage of nerfs to items and classes that were coming. The people who are happy about this already have their cash cow pet class/soloer and now are mad because their melee alt isnt leveling as fast.

pickled_heretic · #**140** 10-24-2011, 04:26 PM

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How's the bringing up cognitive dissonance working for you so far?

Great.

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If it is too much of an issue then why not spend the time/effort to create your own server, develop the game, etc....so then you can play the game the way you like it? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why bother when someone else has done 99% of the work? I just need to convince them of the other 1%.

The argument is pretty much infallible. If this server is a faithful representation of classic, it should be no argument that weapon delay on pets should be in. If it's not a faithful representation, then any other argument founded on "classic eq" is invalid.