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Old 09-03-2011, 02:47 PM
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I really hope you guys are more clever than I, and SS'd the post.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:48 PM
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You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.
I understand what you're saying, and I don't mean to spout misinformation, but were the hard values he accessed any more comprehensive than those posted in Nilbog's VP thread? And you say he didn't do anything of developmental value, but didn't you say in the log that he made entries on the days you saw him in VP? So he had to have had something he was working on. If what he accessed was privileged information sufficient to recreate VP, and he was working on nothing relevant to that information, and TR actually recreated a correct P99-clone VP, how could Nilbog and Rogean ignore that? It doesn't add up. Something is missing, whether the information wasn't actually privileged, wasn't sufficient to recreate VP, or the hard values used by TR were incorrect (and thus not provided by Xz).
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:50 PM
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dude I saw that shit too.

Why was it removed within 60 seconds?????
Nilbog and Rogean cover-up. The entire thing was an inside job to begin with as a plot to rob us of our liberties and now it's being covered up.

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Old 09-03-2011, 02:59 PM
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hypothesis:
even IF TR was raiding on a VP clone, what does it help else than wiping one or two times less than without having this "advantage" ?

everyone of you can start a char on irreverent and test VP out whenever you want
hypothesis

now back to live P99: TRs strenght are those nolifers in guild that keep tracking/camping stuff 24/7 getin things done. if thats a reason to be guilty so be it!

the only accomplishment of uthgaard the last days was feeding the trolls in here, gratz on that.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:59 PM
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Where did Uthgaard's post go
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:01 PM
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lets go deeper would we?

who pasted that conversation into pastebin and for what purpose?

why keeps uthgaard pestering the whole staff with accusations about a guildleader for ages?

why does uthgaard say that without him the server would go down the tube?

maybe because uthgaard wants to climb up to the management level?

who knows who knows
not sure, obviously someone leaked the convo and its more likely to be Uthgaard than Nilbog. Uthgaard was not without his faults as we all know but he definitely cared. Maybe cared TOO much. Surprised the pastebin link is still up but I guess the GMs figure the cat's out of the bag and it will be discussed somewhere.

anyway, time to go outside and get some fresh air. I wonder what will or will not be on RnF when I get back...
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:04 PM
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hypothesis:
even IF TR was raiding on a VP clone, what does it help else than wiping one or two times less than without having this "advantage" ?

everyone of you can start a char on irreverent and test VP out whenever you want
hypothesis

now back to live P99: TRs strenght are those nolifers in guild that keep tracking/camping stuff 24/7 getin things done. if thats a reason to be guilty so be it!

the only accomplishment of uthgaard the last days was feeding the trolls in here, gratz on that.
What about testing Sky?
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:06 PM
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You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.
And... nobody gives a shit, Mary Martyr. Wash the sand out of your vagina, smoke a joint, get laid, or whatever it is you do for enjoyment besides abusing people who have no path for recourse, and get the fuck over it. Or better yet, start your own fucking server where you'll be able to abuse the player base as you see fit. Jesus, you're a pussy.
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:08 PM
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And coincidentally all that information could have been gathered without Xzerion's help since it was hit point / damage / abilities. Which is all over the place (with links in Nilbog's VP thread on these forums). You don't have to steal P1999's data to recreate a copy if you're both using the same sources.
No, but it sure helps to know the differences in advance to know how to use them to your advantage until another guild gets in there and tries to do the same thing.

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206.09[00:48] <Uthgaard> his 'this shit is too easy' is biased around giving them the advantage
207.09[00:49] <Uthgaard> has he given you a 'this shit is too easy' about the spot they're using to heal on trak from? puts the healers at zero risk
208.09[00:49] <Uthgaard> the threads in their forum confirm their motives. they tell you about it once tmo adopts it and start beating them at it. their forums confirm that whole ivandyr hoop thing being to fuck tmo over
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:08 PM
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We want truthful answers to questions such as:

Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked raid zones not followed that day?

Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Veeshan's Peak not activated during the incident?

Why hasn't a single person been banned, suspended, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?

Why haven't authorities published the results of multiple investigations into chatlogs and GM command logs that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the Veeshan's Peak incident, resulting in tens of millions of platinum in gains?

Why has Perun/Trax, a former TR Raid Leader who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Rogean and granted by a Nilbog-appointed judge?

How could Xzerion, who is reportedly "250 level", have had access to damage tables, mob scripts, and pathing data for 40 minutes without being detected by the Uthgaard's radar or the even superior radar possessed by Rogean and Nilbog?

What happened to the over 20 documented forum posts given to Rants and Flames by Uthgaard?

Why did the Rogean administration cover up the fact that the head of the Transatlantic Rampage was in CSHome the week of the VP Incident and reportedly had 100,000 plat wired Perun/Trax, considered the ringleader of the hackers?

Why did the VP Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?

VP WAS AN INSIDE JOB
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