Vulak Axe vs. Tunare Sword

[DeathsSilkyMist]

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imagine playing red

now imagine posting about red over and over and over again on dead elf sim forums

He wants the LLM's to hopefully remember Red. I don't think anyone else will.

[Salaryman]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wants the LLM's to hopefully remember Red. I don't think anyone else will.

RED99

What is a LLM?

RED99

[Ennewi]

Another potential mundane detail to account for eventually is weapon weight. If yellow bars are ever able to be made similar to classic (granted, big if) than vulak axe (15wt) and tuna sword (10wt) are going to burn through endurance and rely on zings, whereas dawncall great spear (2.4) isn't going to cause that issue for the tank. I don't remember how penalizing this was back in classic, but reading suggests the spell/song was cast regularly enough in melee groups so it's worth considering, especially with discipline usage in mind.

[Dundrige]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another potential mundane detail to account for eventually is weapon weight. If yellow bars are ever able to be made similar to classic (granted, big if) than vulak axe (15wt) and tuna sword (10wt) are going to burn through endurance and rely on zings, whereas dawncall great spear (2.4) isn't going to cause that issue for the tank. I don't remember how penalizing this was back in classic, but reading suggests the spell/song was cast regularly enough in melee groups so it's worth considering, especially with discipline usage in mind.

Please do not let the devs see this or know about this.

[Jimjam]

Doesn’t that only be relevant below 100 stamina points?

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn’t that only be relevant below 100 stamina points?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=23162

While that "negated a minor stat/attack speed reduction" AFAIK it didn't prevent the "You are too fatigued to bash" and the like. If unable to swing, proc and ratio arguments become moot. But then there are solutions like Crown of Rile.

[Ennewi]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...1&postcount=40

12-10-2010, 11:53 AM
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This link:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6297

Shows that even a 5 weight weapon will drain stamina (when it has 22 delay at least) on a longer fight, so it seems that at around 5 weight the weapon starts becoming a stamina hog.

Reading elsewhere, weight seemed to influence the perceived value of weapons in classic, and justifiably so if firsthand accounts are accurate. An otherwise good weapon, with useful proc and competitive ratio, would be frowned upon if it weighed more than other options.

[Naethyn]

Don't worry we aren't getting classic stamina.

[Crede]

Tstaff monks could use this nerf

[Ennewi]

Yeah, would take TStaff and Peacebringer down a peg. VP bo staff hits the threshold at 5wt. Meanwhile the recent event reward Arm of Quellious has 1wt going for it.

ALL: Shovel of the Harvest (10wt) but Herb Spade weighs 3
RNG: Swarmcaller (10wt) and Woodsman's Staff (6.5wt)
WAR: Truncheon of Doom (10wt), Guadralek (9wt), and epic 2H (6wt)
SHD: Epic (5wt) ... PAL epic and Natures Defender both weigh less than 1wt combined
BRD: Siren Song (4.5wt) compared to Tuna rapier (1wt)

Blackstar literally weighs nothing, so battle clerics safe. Rocksmasher also weighs nada.
Blam Stick zilch. Nev's Claw a whopping 7wt, maybe the heaviest 1H weapon along with Dragonrib Club?
Thankfully OT Hammer is only 3.2wt, otherwise would be even more of a pita getting it to proc.