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Old 06-20-2023, 01:36 PM
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He is clearly NOT asking, "What is the absolute most powerful trio at 60?"

He's specifically asking for a trio that can level together effectively and acquire gear from dungeons. Implication: you need three classes that aren't super gear dependent, that operate well indoors and which are strong and capable all the way from 1-60 (meaning NOT backloaded in power like the Shaman class).

He does not give a single, solitary FUCK about your Torpor Shaman fetish, so please stop stroking yourself in this thread as you prattle on endlessly about how powerful Shamans are at 60. Literally everyone knows this. Shamans are an extremely OP class at 60 when geared out with a full spellbook. You don't have to remind anyone of this fact. It's simply not germane to the question at hand, because the OP presented very specific criteria that you are willfully ignoring.

Now please cease your autistic Ogre posting and return to Oggok.
I know exactly what he is asking. The problem is you clearly don't understand the purpose of leveling[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The purpose of leveling is to get to 60 and finish your spellbook, inventory, etc. It's irrelevant if you never finish your character, because the goal remains the same.

It is the dumbest thing in the world to suggest the perfect min/max trio to OP just for the sake of leveling, without considering how your characters will operate when they get to 60, or what you want to do when you hit 60.

It isn't like other people haven't been talking about endgame, so I don't know why you think I am the only one. People rightfully say Cleric is the best healer because of CH. However, CH really only gets good when your closer to level 60, when you have players with 3K+ life or pets with 5K+ life. Before then you're only getting like 1 mana per 3 HP on CH or less. A level 40ish character doesn't have more than 2K life. My level 51 Monk with Epic has 1800 HP. If you understand the numbers, you really can't argue that Clerics are going to be leagues ahead of other healers for the vast majority of the leveling process. CH simply isn't as good on characters with lower max life.

You need to think a little bit more before just rage posting like a silly person. I don't have a Torpor fetish, you have a fetish about me and what you think I think. Even if I did have a Shaman fetish, that doesn't mean I am incorrect. I am not sure what your point is, regardless of whether it's true or not.

Leveling 1-60 is easy with most trios. Period. You don't need to min/max the leveling process to have a great trio that can clear content quickly and efficiently, while farming gear.
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Old 06-20-2023, 01:57 PM
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Mate, the purpose of levelling is to enjoy the level 1-59 content. A benefit of having levelled is you get to enjoy the level 60 content, but that is not necessarily the purpose (certainly not for everyone).
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Old 06-20-2023, 01:58 PM
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Mate, the purpose of levelling is to enjoy the level 1-59 content. A benefit of having levelled is you get to enjoy the level 60 content, but that is not necessarily the purpose (certainly not for everyone).
Precisely. You don't need an Enchanter/Cleric/Whatever to enjoy the leveling process, or do so in an efficient manner. The end goal of leveling is getting to 60, and that will never change. The only real exception to this is if you are making level 52 Naggy/Vox characters, but even that assumes you will never decide to move them out of SolB/Perma. If OP is planning on just having some fun and stopping at level 40, I have no idea why people would think Cleric is leagues ahead. They are stopping a level after you get CH hehe. The game is not going to be challenging to most trios from 1-40, unless you are doing something like 3 rogues.
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:04 PM
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:16 PM
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There are only two types of players. Those who make it to 60, and those who don't.

If you are the type of player who wants to hit 60, you need to think about what your trio will be doing at 60. This includes understanding what each class can do at 60 with a full spellbook and good enough gear.

If you are the type of player who makes a lot of alts and stops at level 55, you don't need to stress about which trio is more efficient. The leveling process from 1-50 is easy for most trios.

You aren't going to be getting enough of a benefit from something like CH at level 50 for you to fret over which healing class you end up picking. A level 50 trio isn't raiding or fighting Epic mobs with Warrior discs. They are XPing and farming lower value items with their max life around 2k.
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:32 PM
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I think silky is having a hard time coming to terms with the fact shaman does not fit into the "best xp trio". I'm OK with this. He just doesn't know and nobody can prove to him otherwise. This feels like trying to convince someone the sky is blue and they prattle on about math and optical illusions and it's actually everything but blue.
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:37 PM
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I think silky is having a hard time coming to terms with the fact shaman does not fit into the "best xp trio". I'm OK with this. He just doesn't know and nobody can prove to him otherwise. This feels like trying to convince someone the sky is blue and they prattle on about math and optical illusions and it's actually everything but blue.
The projection here is painfully obvious. I don't need to come to terms with anything when the math is on my side. You don't need to listen to me, just do the math yourself.

I am simply trying to help people who seem to have spent too much time at level 60 to remember that CH is only as efficient as the max HP of the person/pet you are healing. It's very easy to figure out how efficient CH is on an under geared melee character at level 50 hehe.
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:37 PM
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shaman is best

why? because fuck you, thats why
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:43 PM
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Silky your including slow in your equation. That is incorrect. It is already being done by the enchanter when needed. Can you accept this fact?
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:44 PM
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You would fail math class bad
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