Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Zuranthium]

You said "most mobs don't summon" (incorrect), in an attempt to make it sound like it's super viable to root rot throughout Sebilis (incorrect), to support your very dumb and desperate attempt to continually make it seem like a Shaman is inherently always better than a Mage.

I wouldn't try to counter what you say for no reason, that's just another dumb straw man line from you. You're simply incorrect about so many things, which everyone needs to constantly try to educate you on, but you continue to refuse.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You said "most mobs don't summon" (incorrect), in an attempt to make it sound like it's super viable to root rot throughout Sebilis (incorrect), to support your very dumb and desperate attempt to continually make it seem like a Shaman is inherently always better than a Mage.

I wouldn't try to counter what you say for no reason, that's just another dumb straw man line from you. You're simply incorrect about so many things, which everyone needs to constantly try to educate you on, but you continue to refuse.

None of that is incorrect, you simply haven't played in Sebilis it seems hehe. Most mobs don't summon in Sebilis. You are going to basically use Fungi King camp as an example, even though Mage's never get used there anyway.

You are just countering what I am saying. That or you really just don't know much. You keep getting stuff wrong but insisting you are right.

[Vexenu]

I'll throw in another vote for Enc/Enc/Clr/Nec. The utility you gain from the Necro will likely outweigh the additional DPS from the Mage over the long term. And when you really want to go ham you have the option for the third charm pet in many zones. Under no circumstances would you ever want a Shaman. DSM seriously making the argument that a Shaman can out-DPS a Mage because he root rots four mobs at a time is one of the most breathtaking displays of autism ever seen on these boards. He keeps falling back on the math. Well, that's kind of like saying that because you can shotgun a single beer in five seconds, you're capable of drinking 720 beers per hour. The math checks out, but in practice this is not how real life works. Shamans are not a group DPS class because no group wastes time root rotting four mobs at a time. If you're killing that slowly why even have a group in the first place?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll throw in another vote for Enc/Enc/Clr/Nec. The utility you gain from the Necro will likely outweigh the additional DPS from the Mage over the long term. And when you really want to go ham you have the option for the third charm pet in many zones. Under no circumstances would you ever want a Shaman. DSM seriously making the argument that a Shaman can out-DPS a Mage because he root rots four mobs at a time is one of the most breathtaking displays of autism ever seen on these boards. He keeps falling back on the math. Well, that's kind of like saying that because you can shotgun a single beer in five seconds, you're capable of drinking 720 beers per hour. The math checks out, but in practice this is not how real life works. Shamans are not a group DPS class because no group wastes time root rotting four mobs at a time. If you're killing that slowly why even have a group in the first place?

It would work in practice just fine. Again, your preference does not mean Mage is superior. You just prefer having a Mage. That's fine, but that doesn't make them better.

People really don't seem to have the capacity to think about how to kill mobs it seems, or how DPS works. You can have 5 mobs in camp, 3 being DoTed, 2 being handled by the Enchanters and their pets. Then the pets can attack the DoTed mobs to finish them off.

Remember how Troxx's DPS range was 75-157? You don't need max DoT ticking every time to get the majority of the DPS out of the DoTs lol. You can use Bane if you want too, that only lasts 7 ticks.

At the end of the day both methods would achieve the same DPS. But in reality most people don't actually care about DPS, which is why the whole entire premise of the argument is silly. You won't gear check players, and you are fine with muzzle instead of Tolapumj's Robe, but then you will say Mage is superior because it supposedly can DPS better. Ironic, considering you lose DPS by using muzzle and not gear checking players hehe.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM seriously making the argument that a Shaman can out-DPS a Mage because he root rots four mobs at a time is one of the most breathtaking displays of autism ever seen on these boards.

[Karanis]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

breathtaking display of autism

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you autistic?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes.

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[PlsNoBan]

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[Troxx]

Ahhh a walk down memory lane

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll throw in another vote for Enc/Enc/Clr/Nec. The utility you gain from the Necro will likely outweigh the additional DPS from the Mage over the long term. And when you really want to go ham you have the option for the third charm pet in many zones. Under no circumstances would you ever want a Shaman. DSM seriously making the argument that a Shaman can out-DPS a Mage because he root rots four mobs at a time is one of the most breathtaking displays of autism ever seen on these boards. He keeps falling back on the math. Well, that's kind of like saying that because you can shotgun a single beer in five seconds, you're capable of drinking 720 beers per hour. The math checks out, but in practice this is not how real life works. Shamans are not a group DPS class because no group wastes time root rotting four mobs at a time. If you're killing that slowly why even have a group in the first place?

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[Vexenu]

Ironically, the only time a Shaman could even sniff a spot in a theoretical best four-man caster group would be alongside a Mage, and that's only if Enchanters were disallowed for some reason.

Three Mages + Shaman is pretty fantastic. Drop a slow and the pets just start chainsawing away at the mob. Barely even need to heal them.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ironically, the only time a Shaman could even sniff a spot in a theoretical best four-man caster group would be alongside a Mage, and that's only if Enchanters were disallowed for some reason.

Three Mages + Shaman is pretty fantastic. Drop a slow and the pets just start chainsawing away at the mob. Barely even need to heal them.

Enchanter Enchanter Enchanter Shaman would be better. No need for the theoretical nonsense.