It's not ok to diagnose people and prOscribe medications.

[unsunghero]

I will clarify two things: I am not in corporate, our agency is a non-profit

Also, there is a stigma that hospitals commit people. Ya’ll wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have told me they were suicidal but didn’t want to go to a hospital for help because they didn’t want to be committed for life. It’s an extremely common misconception for the layman public

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will clarify two things: I am not in corporate, our agency is a non-profit

Also, there is a stigma that hospitals commit people. Ya’ll wouldn’t believe the amount of people who have told me they were suicidal but didn’t want to go to a hospital for help because they didn’t want to be committed for life. It’s an extremely common misconception for the layman public

That's true.

[unsunghero]

To my knowledge the antipsychotics they prescribe to kids as a mood stabilizer like abilify do not cause movement disorders. Other antipsychotics even newer generation ones do, at very low rates

I am not a psychiatrist to say for sure. Prescribing antipsychotics for kids as mood stabilizers like ability is RAMPANT, when the real problem is often bad parents. So I truly hope abilify doesn’t cause movement disorders, and am fairly sure it doesn’t

If it does, there is going to be a National scandal brewing in a few years. Rampant prescribing of these to kids, not kidding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To my knowledge the antipsychotics they prescribe to kids as a mood stabilizer like ability do not cause movement disorders. Other antipsychotics even newer generation ones so, at very low rates

I am not a psychiatrists to say for sure. Prescribing antipsychotics for kids as mood stabilizers like ability is RAMPANT, when the real problem is often bad parents. So I truly hope abilify doesn’t cause movement disorders, and am fairly sure it doesn’t

If it does, there is going to be a National scandal brewing in a few years. Rampant prescribing of these to kids, not kidding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Medication on developing brains seems dangerous to me.

Maybe because when I was 8 years old and in all children's hospital I was proscribed Lithium which made me puke and have tremors because too much serotonin.

Yet I tried and tried again throughout my life with different drugs. And when the Lithium didn't really work and I started seeing things as a child on prescription meds, they just added more, like imipramine.

Probably so I would just shut up and sleep.

Yeah. I saw aliens as a kid. Makes me wonder if they are just real and everyone is supposed to be oblivious to them and if you see them you get drugged to try and cover it up. Stop you from seeing the true nature of reality.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Medication on developing brains seems dangerous to me.

Maybe because when I was 8 years old and in all children's hospital I was proscribed Lithium which made me puke and have tremors because too much serotonin.

Yet I tried and tried again throughout my life with different drugs. And when the Lithium didn't really work and I started seeing things as a child on prescription meds, they just added more, like imipramine.

It’s corner cutting. Can’t manage my children or the group home can’t manage their behaviors so they use meds. Yah I’m not a fan either

[starkind]

As bad as it is, why can't we just grow opium in the USA

And maybe some of what I remember as aliens and worms coming out of me as a kid where just twisted memories of doctors operating on me or something.

Either way I have good reason to question "the truth".

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To my knowledge the antipsychotics they prescribe to kids as a mood stabilizer like ability do not cause movement disorders. Other antipsychotics even newer generation ones so, at very low rates

I am not a psychiatrists to say for sure. Prescribing antipsychotics for kids as mood stabilizers like ability is RAMPANT, when the real problem is often bad parents. So I truly hope abilify doesn’t cause movement disorders, and am fairly sure it doesn’t

I don't think we're as divided on this issue as we may seem to be. Let me clarify that I believe these drugs have their uses, but as a person trying to enter the mental health field, I have serious concerns about the side effects about the drugs I will be giving to my patients. I absolutely agree that antipsychotics are useful for acute psychosis. I'm much more worried about their safety being used long term as a maintenance medication with regards to EPS and metabolic side effects.

Bad side effects exist and it horrifies me to be a part of making that happen to someone.

Even more so if I ever reach my career goal of being a pro scriber. The issue is we don't really have better options. I see them as a bad solution and unfortunately a better one doesn't seem to exist right now. I am really interested in alternative treatments. Calorie restriction and fucking niacin of all things have some promise. Wouldn't it be cool if it was just a nutritional deficiency? Not much money in pushing vitamin B pills.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think we're as divided on this issue as we may seem to be. Let me clarify that I believe these drugs have their uses, but as a person trying to enter the mental health field, I have serious concerns about the side effects about the drugs I will be giving to my patients. I absolutely agree that antipsychotics are useful for acute psychosis. I'm much more worried about their safety being used long term as a mantienence medication with regards to EPS and metabolic side effects.

Oh yeah for sure if it’s for any other use, I would be concerned about that too. Any time I see something like Geodon prescribed to someone who has no current or history of delusions or hallucinations I’m immediately asking staff why this person is on something like Geodon

You shouldn’t see zyprexa, Geodon, risperidone, or Halodol prescribed for anything other than acute psychosis once you are out in the field

The one you might see frequently prescribed to adults who don’t have psychosis is seroquel. That seems to be a one size fits all medications that may very well be dangerously (considering it is indeed an antipsychotic) overprescribed

Just to prep you on what to expect for adult patients

[Mesocyclone]

I'm happy with the way things are going in my life. I'm happy with... with...
Melissa?
I know her name!
What does she do?
She's a... she's a therapist.
Oh... Yours?

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith
I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you is the nature of my game

[Mesocyclone]

As a kid i saw small black creatures behind a table in the den. They terrorized me at night popping out from the shadows.

When I was four a thought entered my mind one particular day "One day your daddy's gonna die."

Well, now he's dead.

I was four.

I was driving home from the local store back in early 2017 and a thought came to me that scared me to death "Your mama is going to die."
A few months later she developed heart failure and hurt for 23 days and died.

Every fucking bad thought that comes into a mind isn't mental 'illness' its just God Almighty talking.
Every good thought too.