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Old 11-02-2021, 11:17 PM
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ugh the gambling temptation is real
Pick any 4-year period in BTC history. Any day to any 4 years later. Price always go up. Why? Fiat supply always go up. Easy. Will BTC continue to rise in price? What does money supply look like? What is true inflation? Cmon man! BTC is one of the easiest and it is certainly the BEST longterm investment since 2009.

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Yeah I get the philosophy behind it but its all potential uses at this point because people aren't actually using to buy food and water in Sudan or wherever.
Now do gold or stocks. To be a store of value, it need not be used as a day-to-day medium of exchange for simple goods and services.

People have bought food/water with BTC. Ever heard of the bitcoin pizza? 10,000 BTC for 2 pizzas. We've learned our lesson. It's the OWNERS of Bitcoin who don't want to spend their Bitcoin. Also, fiat is fine for day to day use. I can convert my BTC into USD, and buy whatever need, but keep the majority of my savings/wealth safe in BTC.

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Try this thought experiment.

Imagine: a currency is only as volatile as its supply?

How has the BTC supply grown? It has grown exactly as everyone expected, according to a formula, known by all, changed by none. No politics, no crises, no people driving its supply. The same is known of its total final supply: 21,000,000.

Now let's look at USD. How volatile has the USD fiat supply? Google the chart. Madness.

Is the cost of lumber VOLATILE? No, the amount USD supply is (usually in one direction) so we see insane price increases. Don't blame lumber, blame USD. Same for Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is more finite than lumber.

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Bitcoin will never be anything more than a store of value. Crypto has moved so far past Bitcoin that it's akin to boomer gold now. The real value in crypto lies in the new tech which is to web 3 that TCP/IP was to web 1
1) Layer 2 is coming to Bitcoin. It's already here with the lightning network. Google it.
2) "anything more than a store of value." It's like saying fusion will be nothing more than cheap energy... "The real value in crypto."

As an investor/saver you must get this, or you will have your lunch eaten

Bitcoin is money, all other coins are technology with tokens. Money tends towards hegemony and dominance by the best money. Previously this was done via a military. USD is the current fiat hegemon. Bitcoin is the future winner. Holding Bitcoin is storing value in the best way possible for the future.

Technology tends towards competition. LOTS of participants duking it out. As a user of financial services, yes, this is great. Compete for my business. But no way in hell am I trusting my wealth to some tech token, whether it's Ethereum or something else. It would be like holding your wealth in a tech stock. Wayyyyy too risky. Bye MySpace. Bye NetScape. The number of displaced and defeated tech companies is endless.

Store your wealth in Bitcoin, then invest in whatever you think will get you a better return in the short-term with what you are willing to lose

Holding ETH is like holding TSLA or AAPL or w/e. The only crypto I will hold in addition to BTC are cryptos with incredible growth opportunity in the short-term. It's risky investing, but worth it. Ravencoin February halvening will bring home some big bacon. Helium is blowing up and on track for 500k-1M hotspots globally. Chia has long-term potential and an edge with mega players like governments and big banks.

They all have their place, but none are a "store of value."

Bitcoin is the first effective long-term store of value. Every other stock and currency has or will go to 0. Commodities, land, real estate, and gold can be confiscated.

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Old 11-02-2021, 11:21 PM
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Oh, and Firo is a GPU-mineable privacy coin, superior to Monero. The Monero network is made up mostly of botnets: hacked computers, who when they aren't being used for botnet attacks are having their idle CPU resources used to mine Monero.

If you want to get into CPU mining, go Raptoreum.

If you want to get into privacy coins, go Firo. In the future, if people want to buy/sell in privacy, they will use Firo. Some of this functionality is coming to Bitcoin, but for now, Firo does it best.
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Old 11-02-2021, 11:28 PM
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Or you could just think of it this way right now you’re like man I could’ve bought it for 2500 and it’s 60,000 now!! well I missed the boat…

But in 10 years are going to be like wow I could’ve bought it for 60,000 and it’s worth 500,000 now

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Old 11-02-2021, 11:35 PM
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Or you could just think of it this way right now you’re like man I could’ve bought it for 2500 and it’s 60,000 now!! well I missed the boat…

But in 10 years are going to be like wow I could’ve bought it for 60,000 and it’s worth 500,000 now

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Old 11-02-2021, 11:57 PM
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I saw this video of an incredible douche bag who gets a few pennies every time you use a VISA to pay a medical bill.

That alone is enough for me to ask if they take bitcoin now.
Sometimes insurance companies try to pay with a “digital credit card” too. I refuse it and make them send a check every time out of principal. Even though it takes like an extra couple months to actually get paid.
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Old 11-03-2021, 12:08 AM
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I post a lot of bullshit but to not invest in bitcoin I truly believe that you have to truly believe 1 of 2 things:

1. that sha256 will be cracked by quantum computing (super optimistic futurist thinker)
2. that the entire global economy will come to a screeching halt (super doomer thinker)

You have to absolutely believe one of those two things. Like 100% believe one of those two things, or both, but you cant say you dont think at least 1 of those 2 things are going to happen if you think bitcoin will decrease in value over time.

Because if either one of those 2 things dont happen, there will always be a greater fool ready to buy your bitcoin.
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Old 11-03-2021, 12:10 AM
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You are forgetting the third option
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Old 11-03-2021, 12:20 AM
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I post a lot of bullshit but to not invest in bitcoin I truly believe that you have to truly believe 1 of 2 things:

1. that sha256 will be cracked by quantum computing (super optimistic futurist thinker)
2. that the entire global economy will come to a screeching halt (super doomer thinker)

You have to absolutely believe one of those two things. Like 100% believe one of those two things, or both, but you cant say you dont think at least 1 of those 2 things are going to happen if you think bitcoin will decrease in value over time.

Because if either one of those 2 things dont happen, there will always be a greater fool ready to buy your bitcoin.
1. that sha256 will be cracked by quantum computing

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Old 11-03-2021, 12:36 AM
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Good thing we are going to know about that just before it's too late [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and if it's #2 where that money was invested more securely wont mater either.

So once again, bitcoin remains the safest and most potential gains bet you can make.
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Old 11-03-2021, 12:39 AM
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Investing in bitcoin is like believing in god.

If you're wrong there wont be no libtard there to say so either!

So you can say you were right all the way until the end and either be right or cant be proven wrong.
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