list system flaw

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So maybe its because players are not all high enough, but the Guise camp imparticular is not 'perma camped'. It's pretty shitty to get a group together and visit the camp and then whoever can /List fast enough auto wins the camp instead of the group being able to roll on the item.

List system sucks, but the alternative would probably be worse. It would be nice is people could '/list' as a group and roll on the item.

I brought this up on an earlier thread. You get a group together to go do guise. The person who runs there the fastest gets the first drop and the 6th guy to get there is just screwed. My solution was same as yours. Group's need to be able to /list. They can /random for it, whoever wins gets the item and the lockout. Let the group "reserve" as many /list slots as they have in the group in the area.

[Fammaden]

When item drops, a /ran 1000 is auto generated for all listed players. For the player in position 1, the roll will be weighted with an extra 100 for every hour that player 1 has been on the list. So if he's been there eight hours he rolls 800 - 1000, ten or more hours then number one auto wins.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When item drops, a /ran 1000 is auto generated for all listed players. For the player in position 1, the roll will be weighted with an extra 100 for every hour that player 1 has been on the list. So if he's been there eight hours he rolls 800 - 1000, ten or more hours then number one auto wins.

That might seem fair and nice to the guy(s) who has been there all day losing /random rolls. But, not fair to the person they invite to replace the last guise looter. in a group list scenario, everyone should have equal roll on every drop.

[Modwolf]

Grakken is a lost cause. Everyone is better off ignoring his mental gymnastics.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Kirrund [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty common sense from the amount of times you've referred to people as strangers

The ol' I was proven wrong so I'm just gonna allude to the mountain of evidence I can't be bothered to provide defense?

Originally Posted by Modwolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grakken is a lost cause. Everyone is better off ignoring his mental gymnastics.

You do realize I'm the one getting attacked? I presented an argument in accordance with the subject of the thread and others responded with ad hominem?

[ZiggyTheMuss]

There seems to be a portion of the users on these forums who are unfortunately mistaken on the purpose of the list.

The creation of the list has for some reason left these poor brain-damaged souls with the false impression that the purpose of it is to "promote grouping" or "get people to work together to camp items for others."

The guides do not fucking care if you guys work together. They don't care if a certain class can't solo camp an item.

What they DO care about is not having a thousand fucking tickets to sort through every day from disputes surrounding the manastone camp. I really don't know what is so hard to understand about this concept but hey, there you go. Of course common sense might seem like such an alien concept to people who are willing to sit on a wooden box for 50 hours to get an OMGERD-mernastern!

I support the list because I support the staff. However, it still needs to be tweaked to cut freeloading leeches out of the equation though.

"But a rogue can't solo the camp, you should want to help a rogue stranger camp this item for 20 hours!"

Bitch, STFU. Why don't you go on the blue server or any other camp on green/teal where there is not a /list present and just announce to the zone "Hey guys! I am not capable of camping XXXX but who wants to spend the next 20 hours camping it for me?!?" and see how that works out for you.

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There seems to be a portion of the users on these forums who are unfortunately mistaken on the purpose of the list.

The creation of the list has for some reason left these poor brain-damaged souls with the false impression that the purpose of it is to "promote grouping" or "get people to work together to camp items for others."

The guides do not fucking care if you guys work together. They don't care if a certain class can't solo camp an item.

What they DO care about is not having a thousand fucking tickets to sort through every day from disputes surrounding the manastone camp. I really don't know what is so hard to understand about this concept but hey, there you go. Of course common sense might seem like such an alien concept to people who are willing to sit on a wooden box for 50 hours to get an OMGERD-mernastern!

I support the list because I support the staff. However, it still needs to be tweaked to cut freeloading leeches out of the equation though.

"But a rogue can't solo the camp, you should want to help a rogue stranger camp this item for 20 hours!"

Bitch, STFU. Why don't you go on the blue server or any other camp on green/teal where there is not a /list present and just announce to the zone "Hey guys! I am not capable of camping XXXX but who wants to spend the next 20 hours camping it for me?!?" and see how that works out for you.

God it’s even worse when it’s something that doesn’t even use mana.

[lituviel]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"But a rogue can't solo the camp, you should want to help a rogue stranger camp this item for 20 hours!"

Help the list moving and carry him asshole!

[jacob54311]

List is working as intended.

[Bazia]

rogues getting loot leaving nerds frothing at the mouth, based staff imo