AskEQ! What item(s), gear, or weapon(s) do you feel are overpriced in today's market?

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Originally Posted by radbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made a spreadsheet to compare things like this. Dual jade-maces are basically equal at lvl 49 to a woodsmans. I have some trouble comparing 2handers to 1handers only because this: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html is the table i've used for 2hander bonus damage. If thats accurate then so is what I just said.

However if you have a frostbringer + jade mace they achieve parity at lvl 40. Woodsman is basically BiS from lvls 30-40 without spending insanes amount of money, but is not economical after that. So I agree, 4k for 10 levels seems a bit too steep. A more reasonable value would probably be like 3k. There is certainly some value in being best in slot for ten levels.

Interesting...

Could you maybe compare woodsman at 30-40 to duel wield twink weapons? maybe 12/20 hammer and 13/23 winter's fury? or 10/18 and 12/21 velium weapons? or even SoZ 11/18 and Edge of Nightwalker 14/25 ?

[radbeard]

Originally Posted by Iksar_with_a_plan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting...

Could you maybe compare woodsman at 30-40 to duel wield twink weapons? maybe 12/20 hammer and 13/23 winter's fury? or 10/18 and 12/21 velium weapons? or even SoZ 11/18 and Edge of Nightwalker 14/25 ?

That is a little bit of a pain to do because thats a lot of permutations, but i'll compare as though you were dual wielding a 12/20+14/25 at 31 and 40

Woodsmans vs 12/20 + 14/25 at 31: Woodsmans is ~2% better
Woodsmans vs 12/20 + 14/25 at 40: Woodsmans is ~6% worse
Woodsmans vs 12/20 + 14/25 at 49: Woodsmans is ~9% worse (this is assuming 200 weaponskill & dual wield skill)

Above level 50 the website I use assumes some pretty enormous bonus damage applied to 2handers and I suspect that isn't implemented on p99. My guess is that its basically accurate 1-50 and not accurate 51-60 (where for example it suggests the bonus damage on woodsman grows from 11 to 31). So thats the caveat. If anybody knows for sure wha the 2hander bonus damage table is like on P99 i'd love to see it.

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Originally Posted by radbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a little bit of a pain to do because thats a lot of permutations, but i'll compare as though you were dual wielding a 12/20+14/25 at 31 and 40

Woodsmans vs 12/20 + 14/25 at 31: Woodsmans is ~2% better
Woodsmans vs 12/20 + 14/25 at 40: Woodsmans is ~6% worse
Woodsmans vs 12/20 + 14/25 at 49: Woodsmans is ~9% worse (this is assuming 200 weaponskill & dual wield skill)

Above level 50 the website I use assumes some pretty enormous bonus damage applied to 2handers and I suspect that isn't implemented on p99. My guess is that its basically accurate 1-50 and not accurate 51-60 (where for example it suggests the bonus damage on woodsman grows from 11 to 31). So thats the caveat. If anybody knows for sure wha the 2hander bonus damage table is like on P99 i'd love to see it.

This is interesting man... thanks...

It's pretty much common knowledge to anyone who's researched the "what weapons should my ranger" use question that woodsman's staff is a must have at some point during leveling for its superior damage compared to DWing due to limited dmg bonus and duel wield skill caps. but its nice to have the comparisons (if they are in fact atleast close to being right) to show if I might still be reaching even with top notch 1 handers at those levels.

So... I understand its value as a weapon in those specific circumstances. But as it rises in price and gets closer to the average value of say an exquisite velium (insert 2 handed weapon here), i think it begins to reach what i'd consider being overpriced. If I could buy an exquisite velium claidhmore for 5k, or a woodsmans staff for 4k, i'd personally go with the velium weapon for its very slightly better ratio, its graphic and the fact that I would rather train in slashing than blunt. I wonder how a 32/36 compares to a 31/35, im sure the difference is negligible, but as I said i'd prefer an exquisite velium backscratcher to the staff.

[deezy]

Originally Posted by radbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anybody knows for sure wha the 2hander bonus damage table is like on P99 i'd love to see it.

Currently bonus damage on a 2-hander is exactly the same as a 1-hander in the primary hand. However, in a future patch (same patch as monk triple attack, etc.), 2-hander bonus damage will scale with delay. There are a few sweet spots on the table that get bonus damage spikes. But for the most part it scales relatively evenly.

[zaneosak]

CoS.... but I am bias because I really want one. My main is a 58 cleric with like 10k in the bank. I made a necro and have gotten him to 54 with mostly charm leveling after 35 and have no CoS. It's doable but annoying and would love one, but I aint got that kind of plat to spend. Lol~

[deezy]

I made parses from several years ago of a woodsman's staff vs a lammy + some forgettable offhand. The parse showed virtually no difference in dps at level 40.

Fortunately, a friend of mine is leveling a ranger. I'm going to buy them a woodsman's staff and collect parses from them to get some comparisons.

[Quizlop]

I just noticed that A Mithril Two-Handed Sword is definitely not worth the prices that people are asking for it.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Quizlop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just noticed that A Mithril Two-Handed Sword is definitely not worth the prices that people are asking for it.

Legit pet weapon

[Cen]

Is there a way the wiki can be fixed so prices aren't displayed this way? Like if one person sells an item, it only shows their latest price? I saw someone wanting 1k for this robe because of one prankster.

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[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there a way the wiki can be fixed so prices aren't displayed this way? Like if one person sells an item, it only shows their latest price? I saw someone wanting 1k for this robe because of one prankster.

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Fat cats manipulating prices, shits_classic.gif :/