Raid Scene - A RnF Repost

[Senix]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because to me, the current raid scene is an injustice to classic eq. And I'm a big contributer of bug reports to make this box more classic.

Here's where you are wrong on your first post. Crawling was classic cause people didn't know any better. Training up and training down passed one another and tagging is just smart. Most of the things we know now you would consider "not classic". I never carried around midnight mallets, root nets, reapers on live. People just really dissect and learned the game and it's mechanics a lot better 20 years down the road.

[Dolalin]

Velious should get the enhancements it got in Luclin imo. Vulak ring, Ancient spells, rooted dragons, etc.

Root the dragons, make people grind trash for 6 hours for them. Casual guilds will do this, casually. Raid guilds (heavy consumers) will burn out. It's natural.

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Senix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People just really dissect and learned the game and it's mechanics a lot better 20 years down the road.

It's the sad truth. I think I did one Vindi raid ever back in classic era Velious before Luclin was released - a lot of people weren't as hardcore as today.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every person in Aftermath and Tempest could quit tomorrow and it would be the next 2 guilds up doing the same exact thing. Denying this is retardation and complete ignorance.

I know you are too autistic to realize it - but there are active guilds here that have no interest in socking 30+ mobs 16 hour windows 24/7

Shocker i know. Wake up idiot.

[aaezil]

Not to mention you’re missing the point - nobody would care if you and the other 200 unemployed/pizza delivery guys who can play eq all day quit because there is a rotation or other common sense ways to have a healthy raid scene. EQ to the extent its done here by the top guilds is mental illness - not a vidya game.

[Brocode]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention you’re missing the point - nobody would care if you and the other 200 unemployed/pizza delivery guys who can play eq all day quit because there is a rotation or other common sense ways to have a healthy raid scene. EQ to the extent its done here by the top guilds is mental illness - not a vidya game.

From all your posts, seems like your unhappy with all the randomness, competition, variation. That said why are you still here if there are plenty of live servers without those problems so you can love happy ever after with your instanced and no variation spawns? Go schedule your raid and win all pixels and be happy.

Raid Scene will always have the top 2 competing over it, there must be rules so the game can be played, may you like it or not, even if theres no CSR involved. Compared to all raiding experiements that have been made on p99, the way we have it been the most fair so far.

You wanna win loot? Compete
You want to beat your rival? Compete
You wanna dominate a cycle? Compete
You want PvP? Go back to red pill, this is the blue pill, choose again.

And no you dont need to be hardcore to be at Tempest or Aftermath, neither you need to like each member to kill mobs and feel good about it. You will get loot after Kelza if in Tempest and in AM you might get some anytime.

And if you remove the competition of a game, whats the fun in playing it? So how about NFL rotate winners, bet its gonna be so much fun....

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you are too autistic to realize it - but there are active guilds here that have no interest in socking 30+ mobs 16 hour windows 24/7

Shocker i know. Wake up idiot.

Which guild are you in? I asked before but you didn't reply.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention you’re missing the point - nobody would care if you and the other 200 unemployed/pizza delivery guys who can play eq all day quit because there is a rotation or other common sense ways to have a healthy raid scene. EQ to the extent its done here by the top guilds is mental illness - not a vidya game.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Brocode [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From all your posts, seems like your unhappy with all the randomness, competition, variation. That said why are you still here if there are plenty of live servers without those problems so you can love happy ever after with your instanced and no variation spawns? Go schedule your raid and win all pixels and be happy.

Raid Scene will always have the top 2 competing over it, there must be rules so the game can be played, may you like it or not, even if theres no CSR involved. Compared to all raiding experiements that have been made on p99, the way we have it been the most fair so far.

You wanna win loot? Compete
You want to beat your rival? Compete
You wanna dominate a cycle? Compete
You want PvP? Go back to red pill, this is the blue pill, choose again.

And no you dont need to be hardcore to be at Tempest or Aftermath, neither you need to like each member to kill mobs and feel good about it. You will get loot after Kelza if in Tempest and in AM you might get some anytime.

And if you remove the competition of a game, whats the fun in playing it? So how about NFL rotate winners, bet its gonna be so much fun....

Yeah, except raiding on P99 is a high school American football league with two NFL teams inexplicably included, beating their chests after every 226-point victory, wondering why no one else wants to "compete" with them.

[Brocode]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, except raiding on P99 is a high school American football league with two NFL teams inexplicably included, beating their chests after every 226-point victory, wondering why no one else wants to "compete" with them.

my point exactly they can, and sometimes they do compete, people just dont want to, but they are free to do so