AW...whelp..here it goes again...

[bspa0700]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't think there is anything grey at the fact that there was all of the mobs from the big room dropped at the doorway to Progenitor. There is 1 static mob and couple roamers at that spot, nothing you cannot get past without sneak after you FTE Progenitor. There is plenty of room in that big room to drop your train safely, but AM choose to drop it at that very spot where they knew it would hit our puller at the very same moment our puller was running past it.

I disagree. Being able to complain about trains being dropped on you is something that should only matter in an area where you have a reasonable expectation of safety. For example, if someone drops the Prog room of golems on you at zone in -- that's a train. If someone drops their aggro in the room they spawn in, and you're there -- that's where they spawn. That room isn't safe. Another guild has no obligation to keep an unsafe room, safe just for you.

[raato]

Originally Posted by bspa0700 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree. Being able to complain about trains being dropped on you is something that should only matter in an area where you have a reasonable expectation of safety. For example, if someone drops the Prog room of golems on you at zone in -- that's a train. If someone drops their aggro in the room they spawn in, and you're there -- that's where they spawn. That room isn't safe. Another guild has no obligation to keep an unsafe room, safe just for you.

Feel free to disagree. We are talking about a gigantic room where you can move pretty safely if you know what you are doing and AM dropping around 20 mobs that were gathered from all around that gigantic room at the spot in that room where there is usually only 1 mob and 1-2 roamers and which happens to be the doorway to the Progenitor. It's incredible how you guys wanna twist this all around, but the fact remains, AM dropped without announcing around 20 mobs at the spot where there shouldn't be 20 mobs, resulting our pullers dying. And according to the rules you are responsible for the mobs you choose to trainkite once you agro those mobs, if you drop those mobs at the spot where they shouldn't be and result is killing your competition, I would say its training on purpose. If we want to twist this back to the Wyverns near NToV doorway according to your interpretation of rules you could just repeatedly agro those wyverns and drop them of at the door to NToV when other guilds pull is happening because you cannot expect that spot to be reasonable safe when you run by there.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feel free to disagree. We are talking about a gigantic room where you can move pretty safely if you know what you are doing and AM dropping around 20 mobs that were gathered from all around that gigantic room at the spot in that room where there is usually only 1 mob and 1-2 roamers and which happens to be the doorway to the Progenitor. It's incredible how you guys wanna twist this all around, but the fact remains, AM dropped without announcing around 20 mobs at the spot where there shouldn't be 20 mobs, resulting our pullers dying. And according to the rules you are responsible for the mobs you choose to trainkite once you agro those mobs, if you drop those mobs at the spot where they shouldn't be and result is killing your competition, I would say its training on purpose. If we want to twist this back to the Wyverns near NToV doorway according to your interpretation of rules you could just repeatedly agro those wyverns and drop them of at the door to NToV when other guilds pull is happening because you cannot expect that spot to be reasonable safe when you run by there.

Sorry mang you lost all credibility when every single KT race you would claim I cheated and was off the line but I was behind mostly everyone, including yourself, then threated to petition it with some terrible screenshot with the wrong character circled.

Did these things happen you speak of? I don't know, I wasn't there but I do know that I cant just take you at your word for it.

[mattydef]

If a guild chooses to use the tactic of training mobs instead of killing them they should be responsible for that train, regardless if another guild is trying to leapfrog them.

[shuklak]

entrance of ToV during their attempt on Vulak

Lolol

[Sonderbeast]

Serious question. If I afk in ToV entrance, AM pulls dragon, it kills me, can I petition them for training?

If no, then seems weird because entrance is a safe area.

If yes, why the fuck would you pull dragons to ent if you know you could wipe and subsequently get bammed?

Well met.

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious question. If I afk in ToV entrance, AM pulls dragon, it kills me, can I petition them for training?

If no, then seems weird because entrance is a safe area.

If yes, why the fuck would you pull dragons to ent if you know you could wipe and subsequently get bammed?

Well met.

New guild

<Roadblock>

Charter anyone 46+ , stand around ToV 4way and Eashen stairs, submit petitions when trained and killed by trains and disruptive zone pulls. This service can be paid by competing guilds at a rate of 50k for every 1day your rival guild is raid suspended

Temporary removal of the <Roadblock> raid crew can be arranged for a fee of 5k per pull attempt

[Sonderbeast]

You're on to something here.


Gotta pay for my green scales somehow folks.

[xzhaa]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious question. If I afk in ToV entrance, AM pulls dragon, it kills me, can I petition them for training?

If no, then seems weird because entrance is a safe area.

If yes, why the fuck would you pull dragons to ent if you know you could wipe and subsequently get bammed?

Well met.

Because first, it doesnt require any clearing and people can gate out, sow and come back in real fast. And second, Behing anywhere else than zone in when a dragon pop DQ you from it.

[xzhaa]

Originally Posted by xzhaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because first, it doesnt require any clearing and people can gate out, sow and come back in real fast. And second, Behing anywhere else than zone in when a dragon pop DQ you from it.

Something people seems to forget is that you don't usualy get suspended if you make thing right after mistake were made, Usualy by giving any kind of compensation, wich AM do quiet often to avoid a petition.