Activists Hold Funeral For Frozen Chicken In Store

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My posts seem pretty calm and matter-of-fact. I mean, I'm posting 100% indisputable facts and not trolling for an emotional response, unlike you and swill who accuse me of wanting to kill babies and rape women.

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[Pokesan]

spyder you're an idiot

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My posts seem pretty calm and matter-of-fact. I mean, I'm posting 100% indisputable facts and not trolling for an emotional response, unlike you and swill who accuse me of wanting to kill babies and rape women.

I have not read a single compelling argument form you on why I should stop eating meat.

It takes water to grow cows...OK...???

Cows fart and is bad for ozone....OK....???

Animals have feelings.....OK...????

We should be smarter than our ancestors, I am morale and you are not....OK...?????

[Mead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Jcrk6jGfo

[Lhancelot]

I am impressed with this Barkingturtle hippie dude. He's doing a great job fending off the opposition all the while being calm and collected.

I agree that he seems to detach emotional responses all the while adding enough troll with his "intellectual truths" to make it entertaining.

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[Raev]

Originally Posted by Csihar

Your theory would provide an explanation for why animal rights are more popular among left-leaning people but no more. So what does it offer in this thread? Is it a counter-argument to anything?

Most of the vegetarians in this thread are busy claiming a moral superiority ("oh we care") despite being crushed over and over again by the facts. One even suggested that meat eaters are not capable of love. r/k theory reframes this activism as a self-aggrandizing attempt to modify cultural norms to ones more favorable to their reproductive success. If this discussion were actually centered around the facts it would be less relevant.

Originally Posted by Csihar

Your theory would be that the Chinese are simply more fearful of strong alpha males who are too pro at being capitalists. Well done.

I really don't see how you got from A to B there. I was not referring to explicit thoughts, but rather anthropomorphizing a bit. Anyway, r/k theory would predict that as China continues to improve economically that younger Chinese and those doing better economically will be more r-selected. I am proposing that these more r-selected people will be more supportive of animal rights.

And the data backs this up. Age is strongly negatively predictive on few animal rights issues (V1: aware of animal welfare, V2: cement floors for pigs, V3: (inverted) killing fowls near their cages, V4: (inverted) factory rearing) and only weakly positive on V6. Income is strongly positively predictive, but interestingly for different issues (V5: willing to pay for increased cost of animal products, V6: mandatory laws of animal welfare, V7: drinking PETA koolaid). Also, you might be a bit optimistic about animal rights progress in China. Apparently most Chinese have never even heard the term.

Of course r/k is not the only issue at play here; people are complicated. But the predictive power of r/k continues to impress me.

Originally Posted by Csihar

people involved with proper treatment of animals are less likely to have a shitload of kids, quite the opposite. How does that fit your theory?

Birth control.

Originally Posted by swilleville

I would love to hear this guys stance on abortion

Personally I don't see much difference between a 'clump of cells' that can feel pain and an animal or even a person. But r-selected people favor maximum reproductive freedom. Once again, the predictive power of r/k theory impresses.

[zodium]

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[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this discussion were actually centered around the facts it would be less relevant.

I give you credit for engaging in this tripe of a thread.

I love how r/K selection theory is spot on. Airs of Hari Seldon in it.

[swilleville]

Just to clarify my last post was a joke... at least the part about the headline and the raping of women. The thought process of protecting the rights of animals while wholesale slaughtering human children blows my mind. The mother, at least in my opinion, forfeits her right to control "her body" when she makes the decision to allow another human to grow inside of her. There are ways around pregnancy... it isn't difficult to put on a condom, take birth control, or hell pulling out worked for me and my wife for 8 years until we decided to have a child. I am not saying you are pro-abortion, but many animal rights activists that will fight you over killing an animal to eat will also fight you over telling someone that killing a child because it is going to be an inconvenience on a mothers life is wrong. I personally will continue to hunt and fish without remorse for the animal that was killed in the process. As i have previously said, I will always go out of my way to make the process as painless as possible and I would never abuse an animal with the sole purpose of causing pain. I also wouldn't murder a child... in womb or otherwise. Some people disagree and that's fine as I can only make decisions for myself and my family. I think I will make this my last post on this thread fellas and I wish all of you all the best.

[Rader]

So if animals are granted person-hood, and one animal kills and eats another animal, will we put it in prison for murder?