Fighting dragons at ToV zonein

[Llodd]

If trash is there to be so easily bypassed, might aswell just remove it all.

ps Maner - cothing to triplets and actually clearing the trash before engaging is as classic as it gets (what this server is about remember?) The abomination you (and sadly everyone else that wants a shot at anything in tov has to adhere to) is not.

[azeth]

Staff allows killing at ToV ent because Awakened's spot is LTK and Aftermath and Awakened both do not want Aftermath also using LTK. HoT is unuseable, therefore entrance is the only other spot useable for the current method of pulling dragons.

So the staff allows this to avoid petition-fest if the two raid guilds shared the same kill spot. That took like 70 posts.

[MilanderTruewield]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff allows killing at ToV ent because Awakened's spot is LTK and Aftermath and Awakened both do not want Aftermath also using LTK. HoT is unuseable, therefore entrance is the only other spot useable for the current method of pulling dragons.

I can confirm that Awakened gives zero shits where they fight the mob. Matter of fact, they trained about 30 drakes to the entrance, wiping Rustle and AG and while they were at it, caused a FTE to expire thus securing their own FTE of a very sought-after dragon, all while "pulling" another dragon to the zone in.

[arsenalpow]

People don't fight VP dragons on the zone in pad, should be the same courtesy for ToV, make the first two cubbies the default kill spots, problem solved.

[thufir]

also Maner, I think I understand your issue with me now - you were thinking I was referring specifically to Ikitiar the entire time as opposed to me making a generic reference to "crawling and killing a dragon in NToV" (which is what I was doing). thus your anger regarding specific names, ignorance, etc.

this was just misinterpretation of what we were meaning when we were talking about it.

this may or may not stop you from being mad about it, but just fyi.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also Maner, I think I understand your issue with me now - you were thinking I was referring specifically to Ikitiar the entire time as opposed to me making a generic reference to "crawling and killing a dragon in NToV" (which is what I was doing). thus your anger regarding specific names, ignorance, etc.

this was just misinterpretation of what we were meaning when we were talking about it.

this may or may not stop you from being mad about it, but just fyi.

So in reality the issue is I was specifically talking about ikitar and then you came in making a generic reference to somehow disprove my claim regarding ikitar? Lol you're dismissed kiddo

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as for this, sure, you're correct that it's just a matter of which less classic solution you're going to impose, and we can bicker about that if you want.

on the other hand, if you just want to pull dragons to tov zone in and don't really want to hear arguments against, we can just stop. it's all pretty tiresome and I think most of the "anti" positions have boiled down to that.


just an fyi that no old people use "kid" as an insult. trust me, when you're in your 40s you don't really give a shit how old anyone is. hth.

If you aren't some uninformed kid then me referring to you as one, since it's how your acting, wouldn't upset you so much. If you don't want to be a kid then act like an adult and admit your comment was irrelevant and out of place since I was speaking specifically about ikitar. Come on, man up kid

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in reality the issue is I was specifically talking about ikitar and then you came in making a generic reference to somehow disprove my claim regarding ikitar? Lol you're dismissed kiddo



If you aren't some uninformed kid then me referring to you as one, since it's how your acting, wouldn't upset you so much. If you don't want to be a kid then act like an adult and admit your comment was irrelevant and out of place since I was speaking specifically about ikitar. Come on, man up kid

this isn't upsetting. don't worry about it. just keep on truckin'. I tried to help.

[Llodd]

If something gets banned you can't really claim it as a legit classic strat.

[rollin5k]

To be a true nerd you must have the pixel passion gene though, so I'm just sweaty

[Erati]

I will just leave this here

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...t=zone+pulling

We had a discussion about this over a year ago before Velious was released and the issue could have been solved before the release. It was ignored and here we are - BTW - we ( Awakened) tried to pull dragons as much as possible to LTK or those entrance cubbies but like Dald points out some dragons gate and pushing around those corners just isnt that straight forward with super big dragon models. The only mobs that should be pulled to the zone in are Vulak, LTK, Cekenar and Feshlak as those are the only dragons that gate, interrupting a CH on like Jorr or Gozz is much more trivial as the spell is a longer cast and you dont need the contsant movement like you do to stop a gate

if this is something that devs feel should be disallowed maybe a compromise could be reached so the server understands that unless one of the gating dragons is engaged, the zone in is typically safe. asking guilds to not utilize a great spot though is a bit of a reach especially when we are talking about very rare chances that zoning into tov can kill you.

I am confused though, why does Temple Veeshan have to be safe again? Its a top end raid zone not really a Day care center to drop kids off to afk.