If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[boboo]

2 points in my life where I stopped beleiving in god.

First time: I was about 10 years old, and killing bees by whamming my 2 hands together like HAHA i win stupid bee, whos stinging me now? That was as a revenge for getting stung earlier in my young life. My school principal was called Father Legault (a catholic). Feeling subconsciously guilty, i asked him if bees went to heaven. He tells me no. I ask him why. He snaps... THEY JUST DONT!! Thats when my faith in god took a large nose dive. If the school principal of the school where the choirboys of the biggest church in Canada learned to sing didnt know why bees didnt go to heaven, that was a bit fucked up i thought.

Look at how big it is, JUST LOOK AT IT:

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The final nail in the coffin: Wasnt religious to begin with, but im bored babysitting at 15, and theres a bible hanging around in the bookcase. I open it at a random spot. Genesis. There i read that the egyptians decided to not pursue the jews into the desert. But to make a point, god controls their mind like some evil cartoon villain and he leads them toward the desert, THEN DROWNS THEM ALL BY SLAMMING BOTH SIDES OF A SEA ON THEM. What a beautiful heart warming story i thought. That sealed the deal of my faith in a biblical god.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The final nail in the coffin: Wasnt religious to begin with, but im bored babysitting at 15, and theres a bible hanging around in the bookcase. I open it at a random spot. Genesis. There i read that the egyptians decided to not pursue the jews into the desert. But to make a point, god controls their mind like some evil cartoon villain and he leads them toward the desert, THEN DROWNS THEM ALL BY SLAMMING BOTH SIDES OF A SEA ON THEM. What a beautiful heart warming story i thought. That sealed the deal of my faith in a biblical god.

Dude, Old Testament God is a baller. He did a lot of smiting in those days.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one said that. If you recall that the Old Testament was pre Jesus, and it didn't say they all went to Hell, if you'll remember some were even called to Heaven without dying, and got to ride up in a Chariot of Fire...

There was still God then, there was just a different form of communicating. See, there is no remission of sins without the shedding of blood. It's been that way from the beginning, so people gave of their best, and sacrificed it, whether it was their best lamb, their best goat, whatever they had. They gave their best, but when Jesus came, He didn't eliminate the sacrifice, he just paid the ultimate sacrifice so no more blood was to be shed.

So I don't know why anyone would say this, or believe this, I agree that's just stupid.

Yeah, that would be dumb! Clearly those Old Testament people just had to ritually slaughter some cattle and then they could go to heaven!

[chtulu]

What people are not understanding is that religion itself is a handicap on people's perspective of the world as well as their ability to "think outside the bun(had to since fourthmeal isn't ringing in this thread).".

Look at the U.S. We can't used government funding for stem cell research. We also give churches tax exemptions, even though their hands are so far up all politicians back, i could swear I was watching a horrible Jeff Dunham special.

My personal opinion is that I don't care if people believe in God(s). I care that this country allows religion, in general, to influence our laws and the way we progress in the scientific community as well as how we dictate civil rights. How many people could we have saved if we started stem cell research in full force 10 years ago from Alzheimer and Parkinson's as well as many other diseases?

The belief in a god is fine when it's confined to one's personal domain, but when it starts affecting others directly; I feel that it's a important line, crossed.

[Uberom]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many people could we have saved if we started stem cell research in full force 10 years ago from Alzheimer and Parkinson's as well as many other diseases?

You're making the mistake of assuming that the people who make the important decisions in this world actually have that agenda. Stated fact: the money wants global depopulation.

[Harrison]

The sheer amount of stupidity and poorly spelled bullshit by this kid is fucking staggering. This was worth the wait lol

[Daldolma]

One of the core problems in this discussion is that the concept of God is being conflated with subscription to organized religion. You can believe in God without believing the Earth was created in 7 days. You can believe in God without believing in Jesus, Mecca, the Pope, Jewish God, Xenu, or Oprah Winfrey. You can believe in God without believing in heaven, hell, or Intelligent Design.

God is a theory for the creation of the universe and of life. It's not any better or any worse than any other theory, and most of the scientifically accepted theories (Big Bang, for example) assert nothing that is incompatible with the notion of God the Creator. The beginnings of the universe are wholly beyond the scope and comprehension of humanity. Whether you believe that a God is responsible or not, the truth is, nobody knows and nobody can know and nobody will know for, at a minimum, hundreds and hundreds of years.

So to crap on a fairly reasonable theory (that there was an original, sentient creator of the universe) is highly unfair, and more importantly, illogical. You don't have to believe it, but there's no reason to dismiss it. And there's no burden of proof on anyone. It's called faith/belief because there is no proof, no evidence. You believe it or you don't.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whether you believe that a God is responsible or not, the truth is, nobody knows and nobody can know and nobody will know for, at a minimum, hundreds and hundreds of years.

Love how this guy puts a timeline to it. "Minimum, 200 years to proving god exists. Here, I've got the math written down somewhere..."

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love how this guy puts a timeline to it. "Minimum, 200 years to proving god exists. Here, I've got the math written down somewhere..."

Shhh. Talk less, read more. I did not put a timeline on proof for God's existence. I said that we're, at a minimum, hundreds of years of technological advancement away from understanding the beginnings of the universe, let alone whether or not any God played a role.

[Mardur]

ITT: Kids who just finished Philosophy 101 with a C.