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[Danth]

Rubicite is just red fine plate with a few more classes able to use it and a low amount of health regen on the chestplate. It's nothing special and wildly over-rated in the minds of many players.

Manastones are a gimmick item which become near-pointless once Kunark hits (except maybe for classes who can bind and port). Well, at least it should. Of course, if they continue working Kunark and beyond, it sort of defeats the point of a 'classic' server, no?

The temple of sol ro quests are fun and fairly indepth. While the final rewards aren't necessarily all that great (especially in the minds of the more obsessed-with-raiding folks), I missed having them to do on my Paladin.

I'd say it's about even between the two choices.

Danth

[Uaellaen]

i like the focus items for mages up to lvl 50 from solusek ...

[The Situation]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say, instead, you stop dying 5-6 times a day leveling in fucktard zones like oasis with the worst ZEM possible. Essentially...L2P and stfu

Wow, is there a bigger douche on the server than this?

[Murphy]

Originally Posted by The Situation [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, is there a bigger douche on the server than this?

No, not really.

[yaaaflow]

I typed out why you were being ridiculously obtuse about the manastone/rubi bp issue, but I'm not here to make a fucking user manual for them so I will keep this short and sweet.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Limited usefulness: necro, shaman, or anyone soloing that can’t regen their own hitpoints. What’s the point of filling up your manapool at the cost of your hitpoints if your all alone and can get killed in 1 random hit afterwards.
So basically you want to be in a group or else you end up bandaging yourself of sitting to heal instead of just sitting to med like all those thousand of players did back in 1999.

Manastone is the only item in the game currently which can be used to increase your mana regen. This is very important.

No benefit from Rubicite Breastplate: <snip>

Rubi BP is the only item in the game currently which can be used to increase your passive hp regen. This is very important.

I dare say that if you feel like you NEED either of these items to play then your doing something wrong.

Who the hell said this? However, If you feel your character is reaching their max potential without one of those two items (and you aren't a monk) then you are wrong.

Edit: I am aware of one off items like mod rods or purchasable regen potions. Those are not at all equivalent to a manastone or a rubi bp.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by yaaaflow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I typed out why you were being ridiculously obtuse about the manastone/rubi bp issue, but I'm not here to make a fucking user manual for them so I will keep this short and sweet.

Manastone is the only item in the game currently which can be used to increase your mana regen. This is very important.

Rubi BP is the only item in the game currently which can be used to increase your passive hp regen. This is very important.

Who the hell said this? However, If you feel your character is reaching their max potential without one of those two items (and you aren't a monk) then you are wrong.

Well at this point we have come to an impasse based on differing opinions. I have yet to see a tank on a raid using a Rubi BP. Perhaps the tank was just not trying hard enough to reach their "max potential"? Maybe my opinion is not yours, but I can backup what I've seen so I wouldn't call it wrong.

Also, as far as I know manastones are not supposed to work in Planes and that is the end game of classic. I have yet to see anyone need a manastone when fighting Kobolds or Frogloks. Desire is another story all together. If you want the game to be easier then sure, get a manastone. I like a challenge and can manage my mana. You see, I have nothing against the existence of these items and that's not even what the conversation was about yet people keep bringing it up again.

I am very sorry that the topic of this thread has totally been hijacked by this whole Rubi/manastone BS...

I've yet to see an answer to my question about progression.

[yaaaflow]

"If you want the game to be easier then sure, get a manastone. I like a challenge and can manage my mana."

This is like saying If you want the game to be easier then sure, hit level 50. I like a challenge so I keep myself at level 45. Manastone makes you better. Being level 50 rather than 45 makes you better. You want to keep your character at level 45 or you want to not get a manastone that's fine, just know your character is less useful because of it.

Anyway ending derail, I will again link you to something the GMs posted waaaay before hate was opened and all that.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...1&postcount=12

This was posted in November, like 2.5 months before hate was released. It clearly shows their intention to release hate before Sol Ro. If this is such a problem that you did all sorts of research to prove that Sol Ro opened first WHY DID NO ONE CARE IN THAT THREAD.

edit: Wow I just noticed you were the next poster in that thread (ignoring Goobles of course, since it would be a stretch to call anything he's made on this site a worthwhile post). You knew 2.5 months ago that they planned to release hate before sol ro, why are you making a big deal about it now? You even started the thread back then asking how progression will be handled, Aeolwind lays it out for you, you say thanks for the help!

[Finawin]

Lol rubicite BP important, that's rich

Character less useful because it doesn't have a manastone? You're off your rocker.

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Character less useful because it doesn't have a manastone? You're off your rocker.

Seriously done with this manastone tangent after this post.

Lets take Cleric A and Cleric B

Cleric A has no manastone, so he regens mana at 19 mana/tick at 50.

Cleric B has a manastone, and with manastone/cheal he can regen his mana at an average of 40 mana/tick.

Aside from this, the two play exactly the same.

Cleric B is more useful than Cleric A.

The same goes for other casting classes, though to a lesser degree than clerics. A shadowknight with a manastone is better than the same shadowknight without one.

edit: for what its worth I talked with finawin in game and he actually agrees with me, he's just being a troll.

[Finawin]

It's cute that you think that.