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Old 07-08-2016, 09:57 PM
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Obviously you read something into my post that doesn't exist.

Yes per capita more blacks get killed by cops then whites you dumbfuck, they have 70% fatherless homes, and what do good fathers teach their sons? SELF CONTROL, something black people as a WHOLE lack.

Blacks get killed by white cops because blacks lack self control and they are easily influenced by the most degenerate people in society (gangbangers) because they are looking for fathers and they find that bond in the gangs they join. Unfortunately those gangbangers are all PoS otherwise they wouldn't be gangbangers. Quit being a dumbass, and learn to accept the fact YOU "progressive" fucks are responsible for the Black poverty and the crime related to it in this country not to mention the shithole culture that the LEFTWING media glorifies.
I'm so glad you said this. This is the kind of thing I assume lies in the dark corners of many conservatives minds but they just won't come out and say it.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:08 PM
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I'm so glad you said this. This is the kind of thing I assume lies in the dark corners of many conservatives minds but they just won't come out and say it.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:13 PM
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Hang on there. That study concerned IQ and involvement in acts violence, not general education nor exposure to lifetime violence.

Regarding involvement in violence, I would wager single motherhood, abusive childhoods, and genetics. See below.

Regarding IQ, I can't really hazard a guess as to what's the strongest indicator. There are many environmental and genetic factors there.

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http://www.antoniocasella.eu/archipsy/Beaver_2013.pdf (this one doesn't explore single motherhood explicitly)

IIRC, there is a .8 or .9 correlation between divorce rates and violent crime based on per-city census bureau & fbi data (I forget the specifics). That's higher than correlation with either poverty rate, unemployment rate, or black population, which were all sub .5 correlation coefficient. If it's important I can try to dig up the source.
You don't need to hazard a guess because there's a substantial body of evidence, early education programs for low income children have shown through years of meta analysis to have an effect on IQ of at least around 7 points. There are other factors as well obviously.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:18 PM
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You don't need to hazard a guess because there's a substantial body of evidence, early education programs for low income children have shown through years of meta analysis to have an effect on IQ of at least around 7 points. There are other factors as well obviously.
He asked for the "strongest indicator" of IQ. An effect of at least around 7 IQ points doesn't fit that.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:25 PM
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He asked for the "strongest indicator" of IQ. An effect of at least around 7 IQ points doesn't fit that.
Technically I believe the strongest indicator is the IQ of the mother, which is interesting and you can dig deeper into that. However, keep in mind that I said an early education program affected IQ by roughly that amount. It also seems to be affected by how much one attends school and the quality of the school. So education in general would be a different story.
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He asked for the "strongest indicator" of IQ. An effect of at least around 7 IQ points doesn't fit that.
No I discount IQ as having any real importance. IQ isn't intelligence.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:51 PM
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No I discount IQ as having any real importance. IQ isn't intelligence.
Indeed. You asked for strongest indicator of general education. Since the study concerned IQ, not general education, I changed the subject back to IQ. Misrepresented you there.

To your point about IQ not having any real importance, I would point you back to the same study that accounts for racial disparity in arrests with IQ and self-reported violence. IQ isn't intelligence, but it can assess intelligence.
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And education influences IQ; poverty is an obstacle to both general child development and educational outcomes. See: Effect of poverty on childhood development and educational outcomes.
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Technically I believe the strongest indicator is the IQ of the mother, which is interesting and you can dig deeper into that. However, keep in mind that I said an early education program affected IQ by roughly that amount. It also seems to be affected by how much one attends school and the quality of the school. So education in general would be a different story.
It's cultural, or due to sub-culture to be exact. Race or quality of school (aint a class issue) doesn't have anything to do with the outcome. The US has been deeply divided into sub-cultures, making it easy pickings to conquer (divide and conquer) by the elites.
The Truth About 'Black Lives Matter'8m vid
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:12 PM
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It's cultural, or due to sub-culture to be exact. Race or quality of school (aint a class issue) doesn't have anything to do with the outcome. The US has been deeply divided into sub-cultures, making it easy pickings to conquer (divide and conquer) by the elites.
The Truth About 'Black Lives Matter'8m vid
Let me be clear, you are saying the strongest indicator of IQ is "sub-culture?" That's what I'm seeing. Just making sure.
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