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Blitzers · #**131** 06-13-2016, 07:46 AM

Orlando Shooting Suspect Identified As Omar Mateen, Registered Democrat Of Afghan Descent; Pledged Allegiance To ISIS

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...een-us-citizen

Blitzers · #**132** 06-13-2016, 08:00 AM

Wonder if the LBGT community is wishing they could go back to the simpler days when they only had to worry about Christian Bakers.

Know your Enemy, Rage Against the Machine.

Saludeen · #**133** 06-13-2016, 08:07 AM

I already said I condemn sharia law. That includes lying. God commands us to tell the truth. And the most accurate translations are A Monotheist Translation, and A Reformist Translation. How do I know? Based on reasoning, reflection, comparison, and the attitude, honesty, and sincerity of the translators. Most of the other translations are done by sectarians like Sunni's who distort Islam with culture, tradition, and man made hadiths.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

And jihad means stuggle, so a jihadist a good thing. It refers to the struggle to avoid sin and do good work. Its the concept of striving for righteousness in any form, including war if necessary for the previous reasons.

So if someone says "san bernadino is a jihad" then that doesn't make sense and only expresses ignorance of the word. Especially since it wasn't even done by Muslims as the witnesses prove. And even if it was it makes no difference since people are defined by their actions not by what they call themselves. Nor is anyone responsible for the sins of others.

Daywolf · #**134** 06-13-2016, 08:27 AM

It's more like LLGBTP that first L for leftist and you can figure out the P. Bakers still on the hit list, after all it's "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and a prime target for the leftist. But there are L's and G's and B's that are not leftists, I know I've had some friends that werent, some even conservs. T's are extra confusing, but I've heard of some not being leftist.

In any case, no one has the right to put them to dearh for being that way ...no comment on P's though, apart from being the only ones deserving of being locked up if caught doing that. It's not LGBT being the prob, just leftists and their jihadist friends.

Blitzers · #**135** 06-13-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already said I condemn sharia law. That includes lying. God commands us to tell the truth. And the most accurate translations are A Monotheist Translation, and A Reformist Translation. How do I know? Based on reasoning, reflection, comparison, and the attitude, honesty, and sincerity of the translators. Most of the other translations are done by sectarians like Sunni's who distort Islam with culture, tradition, and man made hadiths.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

And jihad means stuggle, so a jihadist a good thing. It refers to the struggle to avoid sin and do good work. Its the concept of striving for righteousness in any form, including war if necessary for the previous reasons.

So if someone says "san bernadino is a jihad" then that doesn't make sense and only expresses ignorance of the word. Especially since it wasn't even done by Muslims as the witnesses prove. And even if it was it makes no difference since people are defined by their actions not by what they call themselves. Nor is anyone responsible for the sins of others.

Explain "abrogation" and the verses of the Sword that clearly abrogate verses of Peace.

Or do you dismiss Muhammad's time in Medina and the call to follow his path? Cuz it be bloody.

Trollhide · #**136** 06-13-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already said I condemn sharia law. That includes lying. God commands us to tell the truth. And the most accurate translations are A Monotheist Translation, and A Reformist Translation. How do I know? Based on reasoning, reflection, comparison, and the attitude, honesty, and sincerity of the translators. Most of the other translations are done by sectarians like Sunni's who distort Islam with culture, tradition, and man made hadiths.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
33:70 O you who believe, be aware of God and speak only the truth.

And jihad means stuggle, so a jihadist a good thing. It refers to the struggle to avoid sin and do good work. Its the concept of striving for righteousness in any form, including war if necessary for the previous reasons.

So if someone says "san bernadino is a jihad" then that doesn't make sense and only expresses ignorance of the word. Especially since it wasn't even done by Muslims as the witnesses prove. And even if it was it makes no difference since people are defined by their actions not by what they call themselves. Nor is anyone responsible for the sins of others. doesn't exist

ftfy

Blitzers · #**137** 06-13-2016, 08:39 AM

Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena

And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

Sura 3:54

Saludeen · #**138** 06-13-2016, 08:44 AM

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Explain "abrogation" and the verses of the Sword that clearly abrogate verses of Peace.

Or do you dismiss Muhammad's time in Medina and the call to follow his path? Cuz it be bloody.

A call to Islam is simply an invitation; good news for the believers, and a warning of the fire for the rejecters so they'll have no excuse. Nobody is forced because God guides whom He wills, among other reasons. And Muhammad treated the people in Medina with peace. They actually welcomed him, unlike the polytheists in Mecca who tried to kill him.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
4:88 What is the matter with you that you are divided into two groups over the hypocrites, while God has regressed them for what they have earned? Do you want to guide those whom God misguides? Whoever God causes to be misguided, you will never find for him a path.

There is no abrogation in the Qur'an. The correct understanding based on the context and reasoning is that we always work for peace and only fight if necessary until the aggressive party agrees to cease with a treaty or otherwise. The following ayat clearly explain that, among others:

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.

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The core teaching of Islam is submission to God alone and doing good. Thus, judgement and intent is always important and everyone is responsible for their own sins.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
(in the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful)

4:125 And who is better in the system than the one who submits himself to God, and he is a good doer, and he follows the creed of Abraham in monotheism? And God took Abraham as a friend.

Trollhide · #**139** 06-13-2016, 08:44 AM

guys what facebook pic overlay and hashtag are we all using, i want to do my part in defeating terrorism

Daywolf · #**140** 06-13-2016, 08:50 AM

The dude that invented islam (from moon god worship - hybrid), what he wrote, his new "religion" failed, it wasn't aggressive enough. So he tacked on the second section, in which it promoted this aggression (war ideology etc.), and in turn over-ruling the first section.

This aggression drove this "religion" forward. Liberal muslims follow the failed "religion" (and in confusion), while the rest follow it's true intent as it was completed. Most of the muslim on muslim warring is over views of eschatology (end-times predictions).