Europa

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not interested in tokens instance raiding. All I ask is to not be trained when FTEing a dragon and deciding to kill it near it's spawn point. Pretty much just saying "don't train me bro." This is in the server rules and all.

Honest question:
Why are you not interested in instance raiding? You seem to really want to play the game your way. In an instance you could do exactly. On top of which you wouldn't ever have to interact with the brothel going hardcore scum you detest of.

Now for my rant:
The whole training is against the rules is unfortunately a poor deflection from the real issue, because when we train mobs it isn't intended to train a person or guild. If this does happen, when we are caught, (yes I said caught) we concede. It's really that simple. You just don't want to deal. Or perhaps you are a masochist?

[Mistle]

Europa should strongly consider Phinigel, seriously. EQ live progression would work so much better for them.

[Lammy]

you have to pay for EQ live. Hard to do when unemployed raider.

[Fuddwin]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We cothed to PoM, were trained 5 times, killed a flurry drake, two guardian wurms, logged to alts to kill Sev, logged back and killed Cekenar in under 90 minutes. About 60 of that was recovery from wiped to backwash.

When we did ikitiar, we were trained three times. Once in 4 way and three times at eashan stairs. We trained ourselves two additional times. I have 60 minutes of fraps from multiple people that clearly shows mobs that should not be there being trained on us. I replicated our movements in our private server and there was, without a doubt, 3 foreign trains.

But right now this is all so silly. It's two raid styles that cannot coexist in one zone. We are working on trying to adapt without going completely down the rabbit hole. Hopefully both sides can find a place in the middle.

Did you guys kill all 6 drakes in the entrance hallway, then clear all of 4 way drakes, then clear the wyverns near Ikitiar, all in less than an hour?

Another question: you trained yourselves? How does this happen?

[Arthros]

[QUOTE=FatMice;2265799]Honest question:
Why are you not interested in instance raiding? You seem to really want to play the game your way. In an instance you could do exactly. On top of which you wouldn't ever have to interact with the brothel going hardcore scum you detest of.


Not that it's any of my business but I'm also interested in the answer to this question b/c it sounds like instance raiding is exactly the environment Nemce desires. No training / "playing the game the way you want to play it" / no interference from other guilds / no pressure to kill a mob within a time frame after FTE. You say you're not interested in "token instance raiding" Nemce, but what are the reasons? You don't owe me or anyone else an explanation, I'm just curious if you're willing to offer one b/c everything you've said so far points towards instance raiding. /shrug

[Arelae]

Another quality night in TOV brought to you by mid 30's man-children.

[gummab]

Fear is the path to the dark side.
Fear leads to anger.
Anger leads to hate.
Hate leads to RnF.

[Llodd]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[manguard]

The only way to play this game is by training shit everywhere. I know this is an immutable fact because I've never attempted to play any other way. It's always been this way so it should always BE that way. Other people? heh, these are MY pixels.

[Cecily]

Well.. yeah.