GM event and rewards =

[Nextwave]

No rewards?

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3. Ivory give brak credit he worked hard on that event and I think that as a game dev you should know that he did a great job!

I totally give him credit for it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Taking extra time to do something for the server is awesome.

There were some design problems, sure (but all the feedback he already knows how to improve it for the next event). Someone like me (or even more random guides invested and weighing in on it) could have helped him spot those...like "hay, maybe each NPC should limit the distance they teleport a person? So it stays on the same continent?"..

Still, at the end of the day, it is doing something to try and bring some fun to people on the server....which is really what it should all be about. So even if there were problems, it spiced things up for a day.

I just think it is odd how making GM events is a reward for customer service volunteers as the sole way these things are happening. They have said many many times how GM events happen if someone can tackle it on the side of answering petitions after putting in their other hours helping out the server....instead of just a volunteer position in itself (or the primary goal of some GMs).

And then people like me come along and go "hay, I'll do stuff", and the idea is met with heavy cynicism. "We don't need stuff done, we just need you to be a hall monitor and break up fights". In fact, that I came into it WANTING to do stuff besides babysit was a strike against me! lol ((You don't find that odd? I sure do)).

It was a sign to them that I didn't "really understand the job of a guide" and "wasn't prepared for the realities, it is hard work, it isn't just having fun" ...

It is hilariously condescending haha. You think answering petitions is hard work? No, sorry nope, not in my world. Modeling + rigging + animating 50+ unique high poly characters is hard work. Creating 300+ unique 1920x1080 environments is hard work. Hanging out in a virtual chatroom and helping people resolve some small problems? That is just fun and games. It is the type of stuff I would do to actually RELAX from work and get away from modeling / painting for a bit haha.

Same with creating GM events. It would be something I would do to relax from my normal work and have a side creative outlet to play with. Not hard work to me. That is actually my idea of playing and having fun :P ((which is actually pretty common for game devs, there is a reason "game jams" exist :P))

Then again, saying this "super hard work" is something to relax with might be mistaken for more cockiness. How dare I suggest answering a petition is easy?! Egos might be bruised!

Which is why I don't re-apply. I'm not here to dance around a room of delicate egos :P I wanted just a way to relax and give back to the server and create some fun for players. You guides here might take yourselves just a littleeee too seriously maybe? :P Helping out is awesome, but come onnnnn....even you do this stuff to relax and have fun when you get home from your normal work :P

So, they COULD do more stuff, and they have people willing to help, they just really don't want to :P I wanted to have some fun, but it seems the idea that it would be fun is outrageously offensive. Hah.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will make fun of you for flying off the handle so quickly in this thread.

Bwa ha ha, you think that was flying off the handle? :3 That is funny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[skipdog]

It's pretty hilarious how you are completely blind to your own condescending attitude.

Maybe you need to step back, look at your own posts, and realize how snarky, cocky and rude they are. Why would they possibly want a person who acts the way you do as a guide? Do you seriously not understand why people with your attitude should be avoided? Seriously, read your own post right here and ask yourself if you'd ever want to work with somebody like that:

"-shrug- Keep up the good work then Like I said, you guys just don't want help. Keep on thinking that running around answering some petitions is super hard work :P And that scripting out a GM event is an insane task.

Haha it is like someone at McDonald telling a chef the seriousness of how to put the fries in the fryer...LOL. "What, what do you mean putting fries in a fryer isn't even something we need to talk a lot about?! That is pretty cocky!!! You don't grasp the complexities of the fryer!"

"Yea, actually, I own my own restaurant and do this for a living....making fries is actually the very easiest job..."

Sorry, I don't care enough to "fight" and "prove myself" to help out :P I was offering professional help for free, you guys weren't interested -shrug- You would rather play some weird hierarchical pecking order stuff -_-

I've earned where I am in the real world already, I'm not going to argue with a junior manager of a McDonalds for the "opportunity" to man the burgers LOL."

I mean seriously, who in the hell would ever want to work with you? Sounds like a fucking nightmare, rofl. You're on the dev team for some kickstarter game that doesn't even exist yet(and likely won't) and you act like some seasoned game developer because of it.

[Swish]

has anyone in this thread had a warning about "trolling outside RNF" from Llandewen yet? just making sure these things are being issued without bias.

[Legday]

Props to Braknar for the work he did to set this up, and what I'm about to say is only constructive feedback...

The people participating in your event should walk away thinking "that was fun", and even though there are people posting here trying to be glass half full try-hards, I guarantee just about everybody who walked away after 3 hours of running all over creation and being handed a trolljob sh*t item, did not have fun.

That's just the reality of it. It was a resounding failure because the level of effort put in combined with the level of troll reward did not compute to "Oh, you got me! Ha ha!" It was more like "Well, that was a waste of time."

Thanks for trying though, not being sarcastic.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Props to Braknar for the work he did to set this up, and what I'm about to say is only constructive feedback...

The people participating in your event should walk away thinking "that was fun", and even though there are people posting here trying to be glass half full try-hards, I guarantee just about everybody who walked away after 3 hours of running all over creation and being handed a trolljob sh*t item, did not have fun.

That's just the reality of it. It was a resounding failure because the level of effort put in combined with the level of troll reward did not compute to "Oh, you got me! Ha ha!" It was more like "Well, that was a waste of time."

Thanks for trying though, not being sarcastic.

Unless, ofcourse, it was actually a mixup between the common and rare loot tables as suggested. If that's the case then oh well. People can deal.

[Axlrose]

If Braknar truly wanted the "spirit" of the holiday to be part of the quest, then similar to the real life aspect of children going door to door to collect candies and sweets, a maximum character level limit should have been imposed and left it for the newbie (young) players to complete. Of course, a whole different quest would have been designed and players would have still complained about something.

Really - raid mobs? And then listen to "Such and such guild camped the mob and got all the phat lewt! I want my phat lewt!" *throws temper tantrum*

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean seriously, who in the hell would ever want to work with you? Sounds like a fucking nightmare, rofl. You're on the dev team for some kickstarter game that doesn't even exist yet(and likely won't) and you act like some seasoned game developer because of it.

Never said I was 50 year vet. But I do know a bit more than some random person who works in some unrelated field doing some customer service volunteer work :P

For example, randomly teleporting people around the game world. When designing stuff for games, you need to consider how it impacts all of the players (putting in something that teleports you across the world OBVIOUSLY favors teleporters or those with gate...).

Nightmare to work with because I don't find customer service babysitting to be that hard? Lol what world am I in?! This is the twilight zone lol. They even said themselves it was like being a school teacher watching children.

I'm really curious what you people do if you think being a guide is that difficult...if you think hanging out in a virtual chatroom answering petitions is hard work....then....yea, wtf do you do for a living?!

Or does everyone work at mcdonalds and is super insulted I equated putting fries in the fryer to a low skill / low effort job? Though, actually mcdonalds is probably more work :P Since you don't get to decide your hours and need to stay standing the entire time and it comes with more responsibilities / regulations on sanitation and whatnot?

Gain some perspective, we are talking about being a guide and teleporting around to help people with petitions. For fucks sake this is ridiculous LOL.

((Oh, and notice how I said low effort...not no effort. Being a guide and helping out is really awesome stuff, and definitely more work than a person has to take on. But save the martyr stuff for someone else :P))

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[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never said I was 50 year vet. But I do know a bit more than some random person who works in some unrelated field doing some customer service volunteer work :P

For example, randomly teleporting people around the game world. When designing stuff for games, you need to consider how it impacts all of the players (putting in something that teleports you across the world OBVIOUSLY favors teleporters or those with gate...).

Nightmare to work with because I don't find customer service babysitting to be that hard? Lol what world am I in?! This is the twilight zone lol. They even said themselves it was like being a school teacher watching children.

I'm really curious what you people do if you think being a guide is that difficult...if you think hanging out in a virtual chatroom answering petitions is hard work....then....yea, wtf do you do for a living?!

Or does everyone work at mcdonalds and is super insulted I equated putting fries in the fryer to a low skill / low effort job? Though, actually mcdonalds is probably more work :P Since you don't get to decide your hours and need to stay standing the entire time and it comes with more responsibilities / regulations on sanitation and whatnot?

Gain some perspective, we are talking about being a guide and teleporting around to help people with petitions. For fucks sake this is ridiculous LOL.

((Oh, and notice how I said low effort...not no effort. Being a guide and helping out is really awesome stuff, and definitely more work than a person has to take on. But save the martyr stuff for someone else :P))

You clearly aren't getting it. I don't think anyone is saying that you aren't technically qualified to do the things a guide does. Your attitude is garbage. Even if you were gods gift to game developers, you're a cocky little shit. People don't like cocky little shits. That's all.