The Common Man's NToV Raid Rules Thread - Page 14

Rararboker · #1 10-22-2015, 10:34 AM

Problem is that raid mobs don't always spawn at the same time as each other. In fact, once enough time has elapsed since the last server restart, they are all spread pretty well.

JboxCSU · #2 10-22-2015, 10:36 AM

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Problem is that raid mobs don't always spawn at the same time as each other. In fact, once enough time has elapsed since the last server restart, they are all spread pretty well.

Cool. Know the spawn times, go sock the next spawn. If that one is getting socked, go to the next one. If that one is socked, go to the next one.

maestrom · #3 10-22-2015, 10:37 AM

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Problem is that raid mobs don't always spawn at the same time as each other. In fact, once enough time has elapsed since the last server restart, they are all spread pretty well.

This is, I think, the biggest obstacle to FIF.

I don't think its a HUGE problem though. All it takes is for 3-4 high priorty Velious targets to be in window the same time as trak for a FOSA guild to sneak a trak kill.

maestrom · #4 10-22-2015, 10:35 AM

The reason FIF works now, in Velious, and really never before is that Velious, like, doubled the number of raid targets. There should be plenty of raid content for everyone, but only if you make it so that guilds have to prioritize their targets.

Rararboker · #5 10-22-2015, 10:38 AM

You sound like someone who has yet to experience the p99 raid scene. If it was that simple then we wouldnt be where we are right now. Run while you still can.

arsenalpow · #6 10-22-2015, 10:40 AM

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You sound like someone who has yet to experience the p99 raid scene. If it was that simple then we wouldnt be where we are right now. Run while you still can.

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maestrom · #7 10-22-2015, 10:44 AM

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You sound like someone who has yet to experience the p99 raid scene. If it was that simple then we wouldnt be where we are right now. Run while you still can.

Hehe. I've said many times that I don't raid here. But the reason I don't raid is that I don't want to participate in the FTE-train grieffest.

I participate in the camp-money-loot sockfest. Doing a 16 hour sock doesn't bug me at all. That's what netflix, juggs, and fear respawns are for.

JboxCSU · #8 10-22-2015, 10:46 AM

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You sound like someone who has yet to experience the p99 raid scene. If it was that simple then we wouldnt be where we are right now. Run while you still can.

I'll admit I'm not in the raid scene on p99...but the rule makes sense.

Your thought was people will spend insane hours camping a raid spawn. I get that. Let them. If they desperately want a statue/AoW kill, then they can camp the fuck out of it for days on end having a sizable force in zone to engage. If they want NToV that week, fine, have your guild sit there and claim it. But you give up everything else.

It helps solves this training shit, leap frogging, and mindlessly clicking on a mob that has a wide spawn window.

What am I missing? As I mentioned before, it's the uber guilds that get fucked because they can pretty much kill at will right now. The remainder of the population not in uber guilds benefit.

falkun · #9 10-22-2015, 10:53 AM

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If they want NToV that week, fine, have your guild sit there and claim it. But you give up everything else.

How? You just leave another FIF at another target. Guilds would react to this stimulus by growing in size to FIF multiple locations/mobs. Its already happening now. AssForTaken cannot muster 40+ in a pinch to kill raid mobs. So they team up as necessary to achieve the snap numbers necessary for a kill. If they had FIF rules, they could (probably would) combine to FIF multiple locations/mobs simultaneously. Rampage would divide and conquer by FIF-ing KT and NTOV at the same time. As a mob spawns they log out at one location, get the kill, then log back into the other to FIF again. A guild is provided a maybe 10min window to overwrite FIF. The only change? Now we batphone FIF pushes instead of mob spawns. Is the server healthier because 500 are AFK FIFing?

Rararboker · #10 10-22-2015, 10:38 AM

That was at jbox, not maestrom.