VA live reporter shooting

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In some states (like mine) you cannot use lethal force to defend property. Someone robbing your house? Can't shoot them. Only when your own life is threatened by equally lethal force can you use a gun to defend yourself.

would you murder someone over a television?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would you murder someone over a television?

"Murder"

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would you murder someone over a television?

Yep. You break into my home I'm shooting you. Theoretically, if I had a gun, which I may or may not.

[Big_Japan]

Wouldn't murder someone over a TV, but I would to kill defend myself against an unknown intruder.

The only one risking somebody getting murdered over a TV is the person who resorts to violence to acquire a TV.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't murder someone over a TV, but I would to kill defend myself against an unknown intruder.

The only one risking somebody getting murdered over a TV is the person who resorts to violence to acquire a TV.

Yeah let me clarify that if I see someone stealing a TV I'm not shooting him but if they break into my home I am.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would you murder someone over a television?

As we all know, the first thing someone does after kicking down your front door is politely submit a list of items he wishes to take from you. You then have the customary 2 minute period to review the list and submit a counter-offer. The counter-offer may contain sexual favors, but some states restrict the nature of these favors, particularly for male-male encounters. If the counter-offer is rejected outright, a best of 5 set of paper/rock/scissors is used to determine the winner.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As we all know, the first thing someone does after kicking down your front door is politely submit a list of items he wishes to take from you. You then have the customary 2 minute period to review the list and submit a counter-offer. The counter-offer may contain sexual favors, but some states restrict the nature of these favors, particularly for male-male encounters. If the counter-offer is rejected outright, a best of 5 set of paper/rock/scissors is used to determine the winner.

He was really there just to loot and destroy an item off a corpse with 10 minuets left on it.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In some states (like mine) you cannot use lethal force to defend property. Someone robbing your house? Can't shoot them. Only when your own life is threatened by equally lethal force can you use a gun to defend yourself.

Even in a state like yours...

A good lawyer and some money can change the result of the case.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even in a state like yours...

A good lawyer and some money can change the result of the case.

I was on a jury where a poor guy with average at best representation was on trial for merely defending himself by using a threat of deadly force. Just a threat, no shots ever fired.

We let him go on all but one very obvious and fairly minor charge.

Why? Well even though NJ has strict laws about using a threat of deadly force in self defense, we the jury said "fuck that we aren't putting this guy in jail for defending himself. He never even fired a shot." It was unanimous.

Prosecutor was pissed as hell, defense was ecstatic and the poor guy would not stop thanking us.

Felt good.

Sometimes you can't take the law literally as it's written, like the prosecutor wanted us to.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was on a jury where a poor guy with average at best representation was on trial for merely defending himself by using a threat of deadly force. Just a threat, no shots ever fired.

We let him go on all but one very obvious and fairly minor charge.

Why? Well even though NJ has strict laws about using a threat of deadly force in self defense, we the jury said "fuck that we aren't putting this guy in jail for defending himself. He never even fired a shot." It was unanimous.

Prosecutor was pissed as hell, defense was ecstatic and the poor guy would not stop thanking us.

Felt good.

Sometimes you can't take the law literally as it's written, like the prosecutor wanted us to.

Pretty much. The instructors around here teach you that you should only draw your weapon if you intend to use it. You can not use it to deescalate a situation. In some states you can draw your gun to stop a crime, and hold them until police arrive. Perp gets arrested, cops thank you, everyone goes home happy. Around here, cops show up and arrest you for brandishing and assault with a deadly weapon.