Raiding in Class R - Page 14

Man0warr · #**131** 01-09-2015, 03:42 AM

If you camped out, then you didn't have a raid force in zone thus no camp.

GMs have said you can claim zone in as camp in Hate. Since everyone else moved up and wiped/camped out, we claimed the zone in and pulled accordingly after your clusterfuck trains were dissipated.

Man0warr · #**132** 01-09-2015, 03:45 AM

Also, we could have easily just moved up out of the zone in slightly and made the same pull - there were not many mobs up on first floor due to Asgard? clearing Hate a few hours before.

There was no tactical advantage to killing at zone in, we just did it that way because we had it claimed as our camp.

You guys are just rules lawyering - after you wiped/camped there was zero chance you were going to beat us to Inny, no matter where we engaged.

Phantasm · #**133** 01-09-2015, 04:44 AM

The only puller you guys had in Inny's room went to retrieve corpses. You had no shot this time around, be humble in your defeat and gracious in your victory

Susvain2 · #**134** 01-09-2015, 05:08 AM

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You guys are just rules lawyering - after you wiped/camped there was zero chance you were going to beat us to Inny, no matter where we engaged.

Listen pal, you got one raid mob, don't get a big head

You're still BDA, if we wanted to break the rules we woulda killed it long before BDA pulled it to the entrance. We're TMO, and we're better than you

arsenalpow · #**135** 01-09-2015, 05:17 AM

Feed the machine. Maybe you can convince a-team or AG that the pixels are worth it after all.

Oleris · #**136** 01-09-2015, 06:06 AM

Glad I am taking a break until velious after reading this.

arsenalpow · #**137** 01-09-2015, 07:10 AM

Because we didn't do anything wrong. TMO had a force camped out at the well which is acknowledged in this thread. IB and Taken got wiped out. If TMO's imaginary camp (that isn't even a camp when the raid force logs out to avoid a train) actually existed it would be at the well area or higher on the ramp, regardless BDA set up camp at the entrance. I posted the thread citing the rule. We did not break any rule. Get over it.

sweeni · #**138** 01-09-2015, 07:23 AM

Trololoool

Ravager · #**139** 01-09-2015, 08:53 AM

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Chest, TMO wasn't wiped. A few dead =/= wipe. We had a raid force of 18-22 camped at the ramp waiting for the chaos from IB/Taken to dissipate, and we had another 2-3 groups at zone in waiting. That's what made the decision to pull to ZI with the rules in place a bad one. There was another guild in the zone and they had an engage-capable force at the zone in that you pulled to. Thus the responses you're getting.

This is why nobody else had the idea to pull to zone-in, the basics are that you're in danger of a suspension if there's any competition in the zone who happens to be there. It's just not worth it. I'm guessing if there were 4 guilds competing, and all 3 had actually wiped, it wouldn't be an issue, but while 2 guilds did wipe, the 3rd did not, and now you are hearing raid rules discussed instead of how lol it was 3 guilds wiped and you got the kill.

If you didn't realize TMO hadn't wiped (which appears to be the case), then you really just need some better raid intelligence going and to keep closer track on /who's, corpses, and FTE messages (hint - it's hard for TMO to be wiped when we didn't get a real FTE message and had a handful of corpses, but had ~30+ cycle into the zone).

Sounds to me like you're just pissed you got leapfrogged, the signature TMO move.

Troubled · #**140** 01-09-2015, 09:04 AM

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Someone needs to smash the rotation. I should just start offering platinum to people who do.

How much plat? Rotation's turned out to be a little too soft anyway.