Grats Sektor on Your AoN

[Andis]

you kidding? I log in more and more to slay holocaust

shit is fun, pvp is fun, thats why we play this game

who you talking to nirgy?

[Mac Drettj]

Wanna know the sad reality Andy boy?

Holocaust "core" aka level 60s with vp keys and basically bis, are highly casual players. They don't have enough playtime/free time/lack of jobs and school to put in 3 day bingers like lite and the rest of your crew that was happy to be the #2 farming fingerboard hoops to sell to buy cobalt bps and epics.

Discussions were had to keep small squads and let the rest of the server rebuild itself as independent factions but that dream disappeared when hokuten was gutted, azrael recruited, and those independent factions were harassed while trying to make the simplest gains (experience and low tier raids) by Azrael. Not by Holo.

Holocaust saw Azrael using the same "grief level 52 s in solb with 2 groups of 60s" mentality forming and saw all the fairweather fighters online for an 8am VS kill, the first repop day after Nihil um ban when Holo was still a < 25 member guild with 7 online trying to push VS timer back against 35 bluezrealites + eternal light).

You can FQ and spin all u want, but that's what it is.

Our population wants more players on it but your guild has the mentality of "act and be like me or quit forever faggot".

If it wasn't for the home Holocaust created nobody would be getting epics, level 60, or would be enticed to come try the server out.

Remember when Lite cried about losing cazic Thule trained and stayed awake for 72 hours straight trying to corpse camp a pve train wipe? Luckily all those little crunchy pieces of toast we call croutons are hitting 60 and completing their wiz/sk/necro epics now. Feelers?

[Nirgon]

Less and less xp groups will be around to gank with pure melee discs

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Ding 60 btw

[Andis]

stand correct retti

if it wasn't for holocaust zerging, those people would be leveling un touched and probably would have had a better eq experience as they truck to 60

the second you bring 60 to a raid mob, gloves off

azrael stood and saw what nihilum did to this server

and you gone crazy if you think we gonna let it happen again

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stand correct retti

if it wasn't for holocaust zerging, those people would be leveling un touched and probably would have had a better eq experience as they truck to 60

the second you bring 60 to a raid mob, gloves off

azrael stood and saw what nihilum did to this server

and you gone crazy if you think we gonna let it happen again

the gloves were off when azrael started doing exactly what nihilum did the week after they were gone

we recruit at least 5 new players every day

i can't wait until we have over 100 people in VP at one time

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the gloves were off when azrael started doing exactly what nihilum did the week after they were gone

we recruit at least 5 new players every day

i can't wait until we have over 100 people in VP at one time

wont happen

grief is upon thee

[Mac Drettj]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wont happen

grief is upon thee

Who exactly do you think you are griefing?

Pvp on a pvp server is not grief. Wasting your own time staying up to prevent 4 people from getting their corpses while they laugh at you from their other characters is not grief. People completing epics, getting spells and levels and sky gear and raid loot is not grief. Nobody in Holo has quit. Holo ts is a fun time.

Staying up several days in a row in a fit of rage - ?

Losing 1/3rd of my guilds warm bodies due to lack of uncontested mobs - ?

Getting suspended for violating LnS/training because you lost a cartoon colored fairy dragon - ?

Opening and closing recruitment every couple of days when emotions run wild - ?

Inviting Twainz to your guild as a last resort - ?

Making threads and expressing your sadness and hurt feelings about not being able to play ever quest and blaming another guild - ?

Losing members and having internal drama over the loot of 1 of 2 mobs you have kept - ?

So, who's being griefed again?

[Nirgon]

No, you guys will bind camp unguilded people too or do everything in your power (unsuccessfully) to prevent people from xping.

You're not fooling anyone who plays here, so why post?

[Mac Drettj]

So we can all read his posts with a speech impediment and laugh.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So we can all read his posts with a speech impediment and laugh.

I really don't have a personal problem with Andis or want to take swings at people based on RL.

I'm just saying if you ask a new player here (tagged or not), chances are there's just no chance you can believe any of the what I'd call barely forumquest coming from Andis/Lite and co. Azrael shits on new players. Blowing duelist on a 56 hybrid in banded for the 5th time in a day ain't any kind of skill I ever heard of. Also, I do not understand the obsession with bind/corpse camping. And when I say obsession, I really mean staying awake for more than 24 hours doing it. I wasn't here for that but its one of the big reasons I came. It's not pvp or anything meaningful or rewarding, you are just trying to cause other people to not want to play here.

Colgate absolutely tried to get you guys to calm down with the 8am Sunday raids / #s you were bringing / how you were treating new players to the box. You told him to fuck off... several times.

Colgate is counter scum, not scum. Period. He always has been and always will be.